'Strategies for developing theoretical frameworks'

 

#phdchat tweet log - 29th June 2011

 

@NSRiazat - Welcome to #phdchat - topic tonight is 'strategies for developing theoretical frameworks.

@amandamichelle - congrats! RT @learnedlife: PhD qualifying exams, done. MUST celebrate! #phdchat #higheredphd

@klbz - @sarahthesheepu would you have chosen something else? #phdchat

@amandamichelle - congrats to you, too! RT @srossmktg: @learnedlife Huzzah! Same here, found out about a week ago I passed. #phdchat

@christiepooh - Hi #phdchat! I'll follow along as best I can. Lunch meeting for work.

@amandamichelle - hmmm... RT @nsriazat: Welcome to #phdchat - topic tonight is 'strategies for developing theoretical frameworks.

@klbz - Although my advisor says I can use/choose what I wish, she has very strong beliefs/preferences. How to cope with that....#phdchat

@laurapasquini - Perfect! Just what I need! RT @nsriazat: Welcome to #phdchat - topic tonight is 'strategies for developing theoretical frameworks. #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - Daft question - are we talking about theoretical frameworks for research methods or for our research topic? #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - #phdchat I'm very much *using* theoretical frameworks, I'm not sure I understand how I would develop one... watching with interest...

@srossmktg - @klbz IMHO, there's two ways to approach that: 1) depending on advisor's networks, etc. it may be wise to listen to her. #phdchat

@ai1sa - my question chose mine...and the absence of research taking this approach...and a supervisor with a specialism... #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod i am seeing your tweets on the feed :) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @klbz 2) You're setting up your own research career/agenda through tenure track. Better to pick what you wish, not her. #phdchat

@klbz - @srossmktg <sigh> The horns of a dilemma.... #phdchat #phdchat

@SueFolley - Hello all at #phdchat - probably lurking today as hoping for answers around this topic - not sure I can contribute anything intelligent :)

@jovanevery - @sarahthesheepu in hindsight, that might've been imp criteria in selecting supervisor/program; probably not so obvious at the time #phdchat

@SueFolley - @LBA_OX12 I get mixed up beteween these anyway :) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - hello #Phdchat

@srossmktg - @klbz I think it's less a dilemma and more about pragmatism... ;P #phdchat

@cristinacost - what's the topic today #phdchat

@klbz - @LBA_OX12 My advisor makes a distinction between methodology & methods. Methodology includes framework, how interacts w/methods #phdchat

@sarahthesheepu - @jovanevery hahaha i had enough problems with my supervisor anyway. I actually really enjoy it as a perspective now #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - My first PhDchat #Phdchat

@klbz - @srossmktg Or, as friends say, "Just finish".... #phdchat

@srossmktg - +1 RT @PeterFlomStat: My first PhDchat #phdchat

@SueFolley - @cristinacost : RT @NSRiazat: Welcome to #phdchat - topic tonight is 'strategies for developing theoretical frameworks.

@lizith - I'm beginning to think the last think I'll write will be my theoretical framework and it will be written to fit everything else #phdchat

@laurapasquini - Which comes first: The theoretical framework or the strategies for you? #phdchat

@SueFolley - @PeterFlomStat hi - welcome to #Phdchat - everyone is really helpful and friendly on here :)

@SueFolley - @srossmktg welcome to #phdchat to you too :)

@LBA_OX12 - @klbz Thanks. Thx So we're talking about research philosophy theory(ies) ..... #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - Doesn't this all depend rather heavily on field of research? English vs. Psychology vs. Math vs. History #Phdchat

@NSRiazat - @ceyizmakal use the #phdchat hashtag and make sure you use #phdchat on all your tweets to be included in the discussion tonight. :)

@klbz - @Eddienosbod Thinking abt yr distinction btwn using & developing. Does the field or type of research determine this? #phdchat

@ai1sa - @laurapasquini for me it was the framework, getting that sorted, sorted everything else...sortof :) #phdchat

@sarahthesheepu - @jovanevery i think the fact he made me cry the 1st time i met him should have set off alarm bells but didnt sadly #phdchat

@klbz - @laurapasquini My advisor insists on frame first. Or should I say, demands. #phdchat

@amandamichelle - @lizith wait... is that allowed or are you taking the "beg for forgiveness later" approach? (forgive my ignorance on this) #phdchat

@klbz - @lizith What is your director/advisor's approach? What direction are you getting? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - For my PhD, I didn't even HAVE a theoretical framework. #Phdchat

@akroundtree - What's the project? RT: @lizith: The last think I'll write will be my theoretical framework..,written to fit everything else #phdchat

@klbz - @LBA_OX12 Well, that's what *I* think we're talking abt. LOL #phdchat

@klbz - @sarahthesheepu Oh dear. Were you able to switch? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - #phdchat - thinking about theoretical concepts that underpin the research. Also link to methodology?

@lizith - @klbz very flexible and telling me not to worry about the theory too much - to get on with analysis and drafting findings chapters #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @klbz #phdchat yes I think you may be right about that

@klbz - @PeterFlomStat Plse say more about this! Your field?#Phdchat

@akroundtree - I did. Did your peers? Depends on the discipline? @PeterFlomStat: For my PhD, I didn't even HAVE a theoretical framework. #Phdchat

@AndreaZellner - @lizith I am finding it impossible to drill down the aspects of my methodology for my study w/o the framework. #phdchat

@ai1sa - my tension now is have i contributed anything more to the framework i have operated from, apart from fresh turf #phdchat

@klbz - @lizith What's yr field? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - I found it challenging to disentangle all the theories in my area of leadership and decide which underpinned my research. #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @klbz @laurapasquini #phdchat mine asks me how my ideas relate (connect) with it and where they depart, so that I am clear in my writing.

@PeterFlomStat - @klbz I got my degree in psychometrics. But my topic was collinearity diagnostics in multiple regression #Phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - So for us PhD newbies, what options are their for theoretical frameworks? #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @PeterFlomStat #phdchat what was the focus of your PhD? This is interesting.

@PeterFlomStat - @akroundtree Many in psychometrics do have a theory. But some not. #Phdchat

@laurapasquini - @ai1sa @klbz @eddinosbod Thanks for your thoughts. My supervisor is challenging me to think about creating new frameworks now. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @NSRiazat i am now, yet again tweeking my lit review to justify even further the framework taken #phdchat

@ianrobsons - 3 out of four children in bed, trying to jump in... #phdchat

@aephd - My strategy for developing TF: look for gaps in theories and try to fill them.. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - The underlying concept turned out to be 'organisational culture' with 4 underlying sub concepts all underpinned by core concept. #phdchat

@Janshs - #phdchat is part of developing theoretical framework based on developing ur own view of truth/reality? is it related 2 what u don't accept?

@lizith - @klbz I'm looking at why the Special Educational Needs system is described as adversarial #phdchat

@SueFolley - @NSRiazat me too! Where did you start with this? #phdchat

@laurapasquini - Good question. RT @LBA_OX12: So for us PhD newbies, what options are their for theoretical frameworks? #phdchat

@lizith - @klbz it's very cross-disciplinary #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @Eddienosbod I compared variance inflation factors to condition indices for diagnosing colinearity #Phdchat

@klbz - @PeterFlomStat How would you say that to someone in the humanities? LOL #Phdchat

@AndreaZellner - I know that my program (in Ed Psych/Ed Tech) really values a tight relationship btwn theory and methods. #phdchat

@ianrobsons - love the topic: just submitted an article on use and application of theoretical frameworks #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @klbz Well, do you know what regression is? #Phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @LBA_OX12 crumbs #phdchat I think that dements entirely on your field and what you are looking at, sorry. Mine is sociocultural theory

@aephd - @laurapasquini I always start w/ TF. It structures research design. There's nothing like trying to find theory after the fact. #phdchat

@akroundtree - Yes. In stats did you use, improve certain algorithms, equations? RT @PeterFlomStat All depend rather heavily on field of research #Phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - R we choosing between frameworks such as critical realist, ground theory, action research etc? #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @laurapasquini @ai1sa @klbz @eddinosbod #phdchat this idea of 'creating' a theoretical framework is quite alien to me though, cld u expand?

@ceyizmakal - @NSRiazat thanks for #phdchat info:)

@klbz - @LBA_OX12 I am expected to frame my ideas and research with philosophical theory. #phdchat

@klbz - @laurapasquini What does s/he mean by "new frameworks"? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @akroundtree I compared two tools for diagnosing a problem with multiple regression #Phdchat

@ai1sa - @ianrobsons love to hear more...my phd lit review ch is framed around the collateral damage created by particular frameworks #phdchat

@Janshs - . @NSRiazat that whole point about underpinning your research is a key, I'd say #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @klbz What kind of philosophical theory? #phdchat

@aephd - @laurapasquini @lba_ox12 I learned to start w/ theory, find gaps, make contribution by filling gaps..makes research MUCH easier.. #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @Janshs #phdchat yes I think so but by situating yourself within an existing framework perhaps rather than designing one?

@OwhyOwhy - @NSRiazat that summary itself clarifies the issue in relation to my phd...thanks!! #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @ai1sa really interesting. real issues around 'off the shelf' wholesale adoption of 'theory' esp in positivist sense #phdchat

@akroundtree - In helping study design, contributing to a field of study? RT @ianrobsons: article on use, application of theoretical frameworks #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @LBA_OX12 @ai1sa @laurapasquini once I had worked through and mind mapped the theoretical framework the rest followed. #phdchat

@klbz - @Janshs I resonate w/ your description of personal 'truth/reality' as basis for framework. #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @PeterFlomStat #phdchat wow. But there must have been assumptions framing your approach?

@klbz - @lizith how will you frame it? #phdchat

@laurapasquini - @Eddienosbod @klbz I think my supervisor was encouraging a connection between models and if this defined a new the. frame work. #phdchat

@srossmktg - Question about theoretical frameworks: How many peoples' programs have theory/science courses to teach this type of stuff? #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @akroundtree well, for practitioner-researchers: encouraging a different relationship and role for theory (my views, anyway!) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - I also wrote an article: How to get a PhD http://ow.ly/5tf9L #PhDChat

@klbz - @ianrobsons any chance you could share it? #phdchat

@akroundtree - Biostats? Psychometrics? RT @PeterFlomStat I compared two tools for diagnosing a problem with multiple regression #Phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@Janshs: . @NSRiazat that whole point about underpinning your research is a key, I'd say #phdchat" agree - was key point in my progress

@LBA_OX12 - @klbz @Janshs Yes, I can see this in the way I'm starting 2 read c research methods/methodology #phdchat

@Janshs - . @Eddienosbod @klbz #phdchat maybe *adapting* and *reframing* rather than designing from *scratch*?

@aephd - @lizith If ur doing a grounded approach, then this may work... >>TF write-up #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @klbz it's with journal at minute for peer review, so eventually ;) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @eddienosbod There are assumptions, but they are sort of IN the problem already; regression makes assumptions. #PhDChat

@klbz - @PeterFlomStat Sadly, I am hevily trained in qualitative research methods. So, no regression for me. Unless we're talking hypnosis #Phdchat

@amandamichelle - ok, all this talk about theory, theoretical frameworks, & methodology vs methods is scaring the hell outta me. i need pictures, lol #phdchat

@weeladybird1981 - @aephd that sounds like a good approach. i'm using my TF in an area that it's not been used in before. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @akroundtree Similar to biostats #Phdchat

@NSRiazat - @ceyizmakal Very welcome - do join us we are a very approachable community. :) #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @AmandaMichelle I know what you mean: I use visual methods to connect theoretical concepts to 'empowered' research subjects #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @laurapasquini @klbz #phdchat ah that does make sense

@PeterFlomStat - @klbz Qualitative stuff is cool too #Phdchat

@akroundtree - Right. Try but explore, admit limitations in RT @ianrobsons @ai1sa issues around wholesale adoption of 'theory' in positivist sense #phdchat

@SueFolley - @AmandaMichelle lol me too!! Still trying to work out exactly what they are :)) #phdchat

@klbz - @LBA_OX12 In my case, yes. Postructural, phenomenological, critical, etc. #phdchat

@aephd - @weeladybird1981 Yes, makes rest of "paper" easier b'c by the time u get to findings/results, u've done all the heavy lifting #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @akroundtree yes: I don't relate to the researcher as completely 'objective' and theory as neutral!! #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @Janshs @klbz #phdchat makes sense. I'm writing my methodology chapter at the moment. I'm connecting my decisions with the framework

@LBA_OX12 - Can C need 2 develop theoretical/conceptual framework for topic, & also look at underlying research methods theory frameworks #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - Nowadays, I am a statistician and I consult with PhD students http://ow.ly/5tfm6 #PhDChat

@akroundtree - Sounds like grounded theory. @ianrobsons @AmandaMichelle I use visual methods to connect concepts to 'empowered' research subjects #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @SueFolley analysed data from pilot study - coding for grounded theory = concepts emerged - organisational culture underpinned them #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @akroundtree not for me, but I do adapt Clarke's (2005) situational mapping #phdchat

@SueFolley - @NSRiazat thank you :) #phdchat

@RichJ23 - @PeterFlomStat I had fun with mulit-colinarity a couple of years back - ended up just messing around with type I/II ss #phdchat

@Janshs - @Eddienosbod @klbz mmm it's that subtle link between methods/methodology/frameowrk/personal ontology #phdchat

@weeladybird1981 - @aephd i hope so:) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @RichJ23 That's my type of language. What's your field? #Phdchat

@klbz - @Janshs @Eddinosbod Nice distinctions. Yes. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Eddienosbod ive no intention of adding 2theworld a new framewrk, #phdchat

@lizith - @aephd I'm told what I'm doing is broadly interpretative - but really am being encouraged to focus on the doing not the theory #phdchat

@akroundtree - Would like to hear more. Pls send citation when published. RT @ianrobsons encouraging a different relationship and role for theory #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@ianrobsons: @klbz it's with journal at minute for peer review, so eventually ;) - look forward to reading. #phdchat"

@Eddienosbod - #phdchat I'm completely overwhelmed by the pace of this feed! Trying to read everything, think and contribute 0-o

@sarahthesheepu - @lizith in my book doing first theory later #phdchat

@qui_oui - @Eddienosbod agree! #PhdChat

@klbz - @PeterFlomStat I think Qual. research demands a different approach to developing framework than a more positivist approach #Phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @Eddienosbod TweetChat helps a lot #Phdchat

@ianrobsons - @ai1sa people do 'love' to say they've developed a new theoretical framework. Individual use and tailoring I like though :) #phdchat

@amandamichelle - ooh! RT @ianrobsons: @meI know what you mean: I use visual methods to connect theoretical concepts to 'empowered' research subjects #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod it is usually faster than this :)) #phdchat

@weeladybird1981 - @Janshs totally agree about personal ontology,i read around diff things and the TF i went with was what aligned with what my views #phdchat

@scottwdavis - Is theory de-emphasized in PhD programs in favor of methods training? Conceptual dev is left to tenured faculty in some fields #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @klbz Could be so. I know very little about qualitative research #Phdchat

@klbz - @AmandaMichelle I felt the same way. LOL. I now know enough to feel *really* ignorant. But at least with some understanding. #phdchat

@akroundtree - Where I teach does. Where I earned my degree does. RT @srossmktg How many programs have theory courses to teach this type of stuff? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @akroundtree @ianrobsons @AmandaMichelle - am also Grounded Theory (Glaserian) #phdchat

@amandamichelle - @akroundtree @ianrobsons oh! i lost a bookmark i wanted to read on grounded theory; it sounds like sth i need to embrace. any sugg? #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @PeterFlomStat Thanks I'm there! Phew!!#phdchat #phdchat

@amandamichelle - @ianrobsons what's your research focus? i'm going to be looking at youth empowerment... #phdchat

@iagwinn - application of theory in history is rarely explicit or programmatic, but i try to keep it in mind when sifting through evidence #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Eddienosbod at best i add novel application &way of being n research framework incl sensitive research & work with youth #phdchat

@klbz - @LBA_OX12 Yes. I'm expected to do both. #phdchat

@trentmkays - @KeethInk Usually, no. However, there are a few exceptions. The conference submission guidelines should specify. #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @klbz I had similar conversation with academic colleagues who introduce themselves as 'expert'. Reflects relationship to knowledge #phdchat

@klbz - @Eddienosbod @Janshs The big question in my program is "who are you using?" Then people spout a list of names. #phdchat

@lizith - where I am coming from is an acceptance is that research is messy, it doesn't necessarily follow the rules and can have life of own #phdchat

@iagwinn - does anyone ever consider the potential ideological or political implications of using particular theoretical frameworks? #phdchat

@ai1sa - @ianrobsons that is enough for me :) some small scale tweaking/tinkering #phdchat

@NSRiazat - #phdchat - the more I read the more I drifted from my conceptual framework - now set boundaries and more critical in reading theories.

@Eddienosbod - @ai1sa @Eddienosbod ok I see. That makes a lot of sense to me #phdchat

@klbz - @Janshs @Eddienosbod What distinctions/connections do you make between the two? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - How long does the chat last? #Phdchat

@srossmktg - It seems like most of the people here are using qualitative techniques...which works for theoretical frameworks, but not all Qs. #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @klbz Is it down 2 us to find out about all this? #phdchat

@Janshs - @klbz @Eddienosbod oh dear #phdchat

@sarahthesheepu - @lizith I agree which is why i combined two frameworks that are seen as very different argued that both can learn from each other #phdchat

@akroundtree - Theorist you're engaging? RT @klbz: @LBA_OX12 In my case, yes. Postructural, phenomenological, critical, etc. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @srossmktg Maybe partly a function of the poll results #Phdchat

@srossmktg - @PeterFlomStat Poll? #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @klbz #phdchat That sort of makes sense but it doesn't always indicate fully theoretical alignment. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @ianrobsons equal and opposit problems with mix and match with conflicts that are unrecognized or minimized... #phdchat

@klbz - @scottwdavis Great question. Some might say that methods training emerges from/complements theory #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @NSRiazat @lizith George Box said "All models are wrong, but some are useful" (he is a statistician) #Phdchat

@ianrobsons - I'm looking at symbolic interactionism and activity theory (one rather subjective, one quite materialist with interesting overlaps) #phdchat

@aephd - @lizith What's ur topic? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @iagwinn does anyone ever consider potential ideological/political implications of using particular thrtcal frameworks? #phdchat GD point

@akroundtree - Hope not. Theory, methodology inform one another RT@scottwdavis: Is theory de-emphasized in PhD programs in favor of methods? #phdchat

@lizith - @sarahthesheepu that makes sense - there is theory underpinning what I'm doing, but not necessarily in usual way #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @qui_oui @weeladybird1981 @ianrobsons My favorite prof said "They shouldn't call it PhD, they should call it learner's permit" #Phdchat

@weeladybird1981 - @lizith i hear ya:) #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @ai1sa 'playing' with theory is useful in sharpening critical engagement but needs careful handling I think #phdchat

@Janshs - @klbz @Eddienosbod methods/methodology? think later encompasses ur theoretical framework & demonstrates how you designed the former #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - Any suggestions on intro reading on this eve's topic? #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @PeterFlomStat love that ;) #Phdchat

@NSRiazat - @PeterFlomStat @lizith Think concepts can have a range of different meanings...thoughts? #Phdchat

@lizith - @weeladybird1981 Broadly speaking, why is the Special Educational Needs system adversarial #phdchat

@klbz - @ianrobsons "Relationship to knowledge" Perfect #phdchat

@aephd - @weeladybird1981 @janshs We usually call personal ontology "philosophical worldview".. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @NSRiazat @PeterFlomStat @lizith Err, which concepts? #Phdchat

@srossmktg - I'm heavily of the mindset that theoretical foundation relies on methodological fit, vice versa. Depends on research questions. #phdchat

@weeladybird1981 - @PeterFlomStat very good, i like that!:D #phdchat

@amandamichelle - so do y'all have favorite readings on your theoretical orientations? would love to know what they are. #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @klbz was going to talk about epistemology but don't want to sound pretentious (just a personal thing!) #phdchat

@klbz - @iagwinn Isn't considering political/ideological implications part of devel a framework-- & thus to be addressed in the study? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @qui_oui @weeladybird1981 @ianrobsons :D - agree haha. :) #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @Janshs @klbz #phdchat yes Exactly. Very well put in a tweet too!

@akroundtree - Sifting or picking, interpreting (I wonder)? RT @iagwinn in history=not explicit, programmatic, use when sifting through evidence #phdchat

@srossmktg - @amandamichelle Read Burrell and Morgan 1979. That should set it up nicely for you. #phdchat

@aephd - @scottwdavis Depends on ur area..in my area, we get drilled on it..in others, its a nice to have #phdchat >>theory in PHD training

@klbz - @LBA_OX12 I think it depends on your program. I spent a number of semesters learning about this stuff. #phdchat

@ianrobsons - I find that getting into philosophical positions helps define relationship to knowledge. I'm liking pragmatism. #phdchat

@lizgloyn - #phdchat Theory for me tends to be about critical lenses through which to view my material; mainly feminist and queer theory atm.

@Janshs - @Eddienosbod :-) #phdchat

@klbz - @Eddienosbod Can you give an example? #phdchat #phdchat

@aephd - @amandamichelle @akroundtree @ianrobsons Depends..if ur trying to empower research subjects..perhaps participatory action research #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @amandamichelle Yes, any suggestions on readings/articles/websites to include in phdchat wiki would B v helpful #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @AmandaMichelle #phdchat Vygotsky's 'Mind in Society' and Harry Daniels' 'Introduction to Vygotsky' :)

@PeterFlomStat - On the lighter side "In theory, there's a difference between practice and theory, but in practice, there isn't" Yogi Berra #Phdchat

@MoiraH - #phdchat happy at last to be in real time with this discussion as courses are over :-)

@sarahthesheepu - @lizith same we are there to tinker in my book #phdchat

@lizgloyn - @iagwinn Most of the time, actually; classics as a site of privilege benefits from a dose of theory to un-privilege it. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @PeterFlomStat @lizith need to have conceptual clarity - especially in research which may be used in practice. #Phdchat

@akroundtree - Also can/should research avoid ideology, politics? RT @iagwinn ideological, political implications of theoretical frameworks #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @ianrobsons Me too #phdchat

@klbz - @Janshs Yes. That's what I've been taught. You express it concisely-thanks! I plan to steal it. #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @klbz @Janshs is a guru ;) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @LBA_OX12 In marketing, Ozanne & Saatcioglu (2008, JCR) frame participatory action research. @amandamichelle #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@ianrobsons: @klbz was going to talk about epistemology (just a personal thing!) It is relevant though? #phdchat"

@Janshs - @klbz LOL #phdchat

@klbz - @ianrobsons Urg. That's all I hear. That and ontology. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @francesbell i think that could also what is contributing to my current procrastination/mulling over/perculating thinking time #phdchat

@akroundtree - Cool. Spinuzzi was on my committee. @ianrobsons: symbolic interactionism, activity theory (1 subjective, 1 materialist w/ overlaps) #phdchat

@aephd - AGREED! @srossmktg: .. theoretical foundation relies on methodological fit, vice versa. Depends on research questions. #phdchat

@amandamichelle - i just <3 the nerdiness of this RT @eddienosbod: @me #phdchat Vygotsky's 'Mind in Society' and Harry Daniels' 'Introduction to Vygotsky' :)

@Janshs - @Eddienosbod I need to catch up on that - thanks for ref #phdchat

@Janshs - @ianrobsons oh you! #phdchat :-)

@amandamichelle - this makes sense RT @janshs: RT @lizgloyn #phdchat Theory for me tends to be about critical lenses through which to view my material >> nice

@PeterFlomStat - How to get a PhD http://ow.ly/5tgri #PhDChat

@srossmktg - This 2007 piece by Edmondson and MacManus on methodological fit is excellent. http://goo.gl/hRCSG for theory development. @aephd #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@ianrobsons: @klbz @Janshs is a guru ;) she is also my wonderful PhD Supervisor. :) #phdchat"

@akroundtree - Right. Theories help explain. When they don't, revise, rethink RT @ianrobsons @ai1sa 'playing' w/ theory, careful handling I think #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - How long is the chat? #Phdchat

@Janshs - @NSRiazat stop already! #phdchat

@lizgloyn - @PeterFlomStat Till half past. #phdchat

@klbz - @Janshs She's blown your cover. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @lizgloyn Thanks #Phdchat

@aephd - @srossmktg Oooh! Thanks! >>Edmonson & MacManus citation #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @NSRiazat well, yes, in the sense that we need to be clear about our claims around the basis and production of knowledge #phdchat

@lizgloyn - @akroundtree Completely agree: if theory isn't fitting, don't make material fit the theory. Cf. Freudians and classical myth. #phdchat

@aephd - @klbz @ianrobsons LOL!!! Sorry about that..need clarification for something?? #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @akroundtree I agree :) #phdchat

@Janshs - @Eddienosbod brilliant, so into collab creativity at the moment thanks #phdchat

@srossmktg - @aephd I took qual last semester with Linda Smircich. Fantastic. That E&M piece set up my mindset on research questions. #phdchat

@Janshs - @klbz ah well .... :-) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - #phdchat - revisiting conceptual framework and amending/altering is also useful from time to time as theory develops (Grounded Theory #GT)

@klbz - @AndreaZellner would love a peek at yr reading list. #phdchat

@Janshs - I shd say at this point that @NSRiazat has me in awe of all she does esp #phdchat

@aephd - @srossmktg Yeah, I took CB course w/ one of John Sherry's students. I was hooked from that point on.. #phdchat

@srossmktg - I've realized the question informs the method, not the other way around. That's what helps with theoretical development. #phdchat

@lizgloyn - @NSRiazat Is there a basic intro to Grounded Theory that you'd recommend? #phdchat

@Janshs - @lizith very haha - always learning me #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @NSRiazat I'm thinking of theory as partner in critical conversation between itself, my experience & data #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - I do find, as a statistical consultant, that people often want the stats to drive the theory. SHould be other way 'round. #Phdchat

@lizith - @Janshs I know - that's what makes you such a good teacher :) #phdchat

@ai1sa - @ianrobsons i think 'my theory' is an actor in my network... #phdchat

@Janshs - @Eddienosbod I am just starting to look at prof dev for sch tchrs so these refs are brilliant #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @ai1sa yes, I can see that analogy!! #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lizgloyn @NSRiazat Barney Glazer on GT is the study of a concept http://youtu.be/OcpxaLQDnLk #phdchat

@aephd - I feel like I'm in church..AMEN! @srossmktg: question informs the method, not the other way around. #phdchat

@amandamichelle - ! RT @srossmktg: This 2007 piece by Edmondson & MacManus on methodological fit = ex't. http://goo.gl/hRCSG for theory dev. @aephd #phdchat

@ai1sa - @ianrobsons we dance around each other, but its a bit hard to get that onto the written page #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lizgloyn @NSRiazat Barney Glazer on GT "jargonizing" http://youtu.be/r6RpQelvS1k #phdchat

@Janshs - @lizith thx #phdchat

@klbz - Would anyone b interested in sharing a title or two on the wiki abt framing a framework? Just to extend the conversation? #phdchat

@lizgloyn - @srossmktg Thanks for the links! Will watch and digest when back in the UK. #phdchat

@shaileshak - @lizgloyn It is not basic, but would recommend The SAGE Handbook of Grounded Theory (http://goo.gl/yInBw) #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @ai1sa needs lots of reflexive journaling and conversation in my case! #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - Wetherell, M., Taylor, S. & Yates, S.J., (2001) Discourse as Data: A Guide for Analysis Sage Publications #phdchat

@amandamichelle - suddenly i get a reassuring feeling that once i start my classes, everything i'm learning in #phdchat will magically make sense. #dreaming

@lizgloyn - @shaileshak Thanks for the suggestion! #phdchat

@amandamichelle - this! RT @lizgloyn: @NSRiazat Is there a basic intro to Grounded Theory that you'd recommend? #phdchat

@klbz - @ianrobsons what's your field? #phdchat

@amandamichelle - YES! i DO know this! RT @aephd: I feel like I'm in church..AMEN! @srossmktg: question informs the method, not the other way around. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@Janshs: I shd say at this point that @NSRiazat has me in awe of all she does esp #phdchat" (Thank you blush blush)

@sarahthesheepu - I am wondering whether post-PhD i can hop around the theoretical shop or whether to stick with what i know #phdchat hmm will be interesting

@ianrobsons - @klbz subject: professional identity approach: narrative inquiry theory: adapted symbolic interactionism methods: oral / visual #phdchat

@srossmktg - @amandamichelle I analogize PhD's like a carousel. You get on at one point knowing nothing, then ride til it comes full circle. #phdchat

@klbz - @AmandaMichelle Perhaps, for a little while, it may feel worse.... But you can do it. #phdchat #dreaming

@NSRiazat - "@srossmktg: @lizgloyn @NSRiazat Barney Glazer on GT "jargonizing" http://youtu.be/r6RpQelvS1k - brilliant thanks. :) #phdchat"

@akroundtree - Here, here. RT @srossmktg: I've realized the question informs the method, not the other way around. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @lizgloyn Try The Sage Handbook of Grounded Theory - Bryant and Charmaz. #phdchat

@aephd - @sarahthesheepu Stick with what you know..makes publishing easier..u'd already know the literature... #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - Has anyone decided on their theoretical approach & used this 2 influence their research question? #phdchat

@lizith - @srossmktg @amandamichelle I find it a bit more like like a magical mystery tour than a carousel :-) #phdchat

@Janshs - @Eddienosbod great thanks for all of this teachers as CoP .. #phdchat

@klbz - @ianrobsons Cool. Not sure abt the adapted symbolic interactionism methods, tho, but it's good to have new things to look up #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @aephd @sarahthesheepu #phdchat good point!

@srossmktg - Vice versa. Cant fit me into boxes. RT @LBA_OX12: Has ne1 decided on theoretical approach & used this 2 influence their rsch q? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @lizith @srossmktg @amandamichelle Maybe a roller coaster? It has ups and downs and induces nausea? :-) #Phdchat

@ianrobsons - @klbz sounds posh, but based on individuals meaning making in context of action (Blumer, 1969 etc) #phdchat

@lizgloyn - @LBA_OX12 Nope; doesn't fit with my approach to theory as a toolbox rather than an overlord. #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lizith Lol, you must have found my personal Twitter handle... roll up... @amandamichelle #phdchat

@lizgloyn - @NSRiazat Thanks, will check it out once I'm back in the UK :) #phdchat

@lizith - @PeterFlomStat @srossmktg @amandamichelle I like that one! #phdchat

@klbz - @ianrobsons Not familiar w/ Blumer. #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - #phdchat wow that was a quick hour!

@SueFolley - feeling very inferior in knowledge for today's #phdchat - but been interesting trying to follow the conversation flow

@PeterFlomStat - Nice first chat for me. I'll be back. #Phdchat

@klbz - Glad to know I'm not the only one wrestling w/ this. Tx, all! #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod yes it whizzes by doesn't it? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @ianrobsons Yes - for me it's for validity and to give my research findings credibility. Also using it as secondary data. #phdchat

@SueFolley - @klbz no I am still struggling with it massively :) #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @NSRiazat Thanks 4 hosting a really good session - making me see how much I've 2 learn #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @Eddienosbod so focus is on subjective meaning making, emergent property of action, development of mind / self / plans as one acts #phdchat

@amandamichelle - this way hurts my brain #phdchat RT @aephd: @me @srossmktg The funny thing is..not everyone does..I see a lot of methods before questions..

@akroundtree - Grounded theory: Strauss & Corbin 1997, 1998. Teaching the method: Charmaz 2006. @amandamichelle #phdchat

@lizgloyn - Thanks all for another good #phdchat; now inspired to go and do some reading and see if Grounded Theory works in classics at all.

@jennifermjones - @akroundtree everything is political. My PhD research has politicized me in ways party politics could never do. #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @klbz very much 'of his time' but useful starting point as he coined term symbolic interactionism #phdchat

@amandamichelle - @peterflomstat @lizith @srossmktg WHYYYYYYYYY??? what have i gotten myself into? lol...ish #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @srossmktg @LBA_OX12 need to find conceptual framework first which helps to shape the research questions - link to paradigms? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - #phdchat - and that brings us to the end of another session. A busy one tonight - hope it was useful. :)

@LBA_OX12 - Is anyone going 2B able 2 load tweets from 2nite's session on to wiki? #phdchat

@SueFolley - @LBA_OX12 me too!! I am not sure I will ever get all this philosophy stuff :( #phdchat

@laurapasquini - I had to leave #phdchat early, but it looks like there was some great ideas. Will review the transcript later. :) #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @NSRiazat @srossmktg Erh, what is link between paradigms & theoretical framework? Don't they overlap? #phdchat

@ai1sa - What dances am I invited into when you use these phrases as opposed to others? K Gergen . A final thought on frameworks #phdchat

@shaileshak - @SueFolley me to but it proves, like everything else in a PhD, I 'need to have a strategy' for developing a theoretical framework:) #phdchat

@lizith - @AmandaMichelle Just decide to enjoy the ride :) @peterflomstat @srossmktg #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @qui_oui @heather_roche @srossmktg @Eddienosbod @sarahthesheepu @ceyizmakal @amandamichelle - thanks for contributions to #phdchat tonight.

@Janshs - #phdchat could research be seen as bricolage? e.g. http://t.co/3ae39kM

@ianrobsons - lovely to meet everyone, esp new chats with@klbz @akroundtree @aephd #phdchat

@srossmktg - @NSRiazat Morgan and Smircich "A Case for Qualitative Research" http://www.jstor.org/stable/257453 @LBA_OX12 #phdchat

@weeladybird1981 - paper by ennis (1999) called 'a theoretical framework:the cenrtal piece of a research plan'-might be of use/interest. #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @shaileshak @SueFolley #phdchat spot on. I think it is just lots of reading and thinking - theoretical alignment with research questions...

@ai1sa - another motivational morning thanks all on #phdchat

@SueFolley - @shaileshak lol - I think I need a strategy for developing a strategy for developing a theoretical framework :)) #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @NSRiazat Thanks! I'm not free normally. Going to sit and think now :) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @laurapasquini @ai1sa @klbz @PeterFlomStat @akroundtree @LBA_OX12 @lizith @AndreaZellner @SueFolley @christiepooh - #phdchat tonight.

@Janshs - thanks to @NSRiazat and everyone #phdchat

@aephd - @Janshs Yes! I think this is a very interesting approach as well.. >>bricolage #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @SueFolley #phdchat I like that a lot. It captures exactly how I feel at the moment :)

@amandamichelle - >holds self, rocks back & forth< RT @lizith: AmandaMichelle Just decide to enjoy the ride :) @PeterFlomStat @srossmktg #phdchat

@SueFolley - @AmandaMichelle this topic tonight has hurt my brain too :)) #phdchat - but necessary and interesting too :)

@akroundtree - In what context? @ianrobsons @Eddienosbod subjective meaning making, emergent property of action, dev of mind/self/plans as 1 acts #phdchat

@srossmktg - @NSRiazat Also if you can get your hands on the book cited at the top: http://goo.gl/OmrWW @LBA_OX12 #phdchat

@SueFolley - @NSRiazat thanks for hosting - difficult topic tonight but glad it was discussed :) #phdchat

@amandamichelle - thanks to everyone for the reading suggestions! >resists urge to go on amazon/ibooks shopping spree< #phdchat

@srossmktg - So when do we get to discuss quant/experimental work? ;) #phdchat

@ianrobsons - @akroundtree ooh, SI gets applied all over, but traditionally applied to 'unusual' situations where insight is needed. #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod :)) - I think a need a lie-down for a while now whilst I ponder on tonight's #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @akroundtree @ianrobsons #phdchat My theoretical context is sociocultural theory: human activity is constituted and mediated through...

@NSRiazat - @aephd @christinacost @jovanevery @Janshs @ianrobsons @OwhyOwhy @weeladybird1981 @just_aoife @RichJ23 @scottwdavis - #phdchat tonight.

@iagwinn - @jennifermjones I'm glad you said that. I thought I was the only one. #phdchat

@akroundtree - Likewise! @ianrobsons: lovely to meet everyone, esp new chats with@klbz @akroundtree @aephd #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @akroundtree @ianrobsons #phdchat physical, conceptual, psychological and cultural tools. Meaning making is constituted in interaction

@ianrobsons - @Eddienosbod love sociocultural theory too (esp Anne Edwards adaption re 'relational agency') #phdchat

@amandamichelle - @suefolley YES! i'm in dual master's/phd prog & they expect most of us to take xtra yr (but $ is reduced). i'm trying to get ahead #phdchat

@aephd - @SueFolley @eddienosbod Oh no!!! How we didn't "break" you! >>need to lie down from #phdchat

@Janshs - @ianrobsons always good to #phdchat :-) @ai1sa @NSRiasat @Eddienosbod @Lizith

@NSRiazat - @iagwinn @trentmkays @keethlnk @victoryoak @MoiraH @francesbell @shaileshak - #phdchat tonight.

@ianrobsons - bye for now #phdchat

@akroundtree - You'll persevere. In my UG mentor's words, "Don't stop until you get that ticket!" @amandamichelle: >holds self, rocks back & forth #phdchat

@SueFolley - @AmandaMichelle well good luck with it!! Some of it is hard going but hopefully worth pursuing :)) #phdchat

@klbz - @akroundtree Tx! Ditto! #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @ianrobsons oo another new name to follow up - thanks! You're obviously applying it in a different context entirely #phdchat

@aephd - @akroundtree @ianrobsons Nice meeting everyone...I admit, it's been awhile since my last #phdchat realtime

@NSRiazat - @Eddienosbod always make time for #phdchat - some great stuff phd-related shared on Wednesdays. :)

@Eddienosbod - @aephd @SueFolley #phdchat dribble

@srossmktg - Glad I got into this today. Now that I've *maybe* figured out how #phdchat works... #phdchat

@lizith - @SueFolley @AmandaMichelle I'm thoroughly enjoying myself, if going slowly demented :-) #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @ianrobsons #phdchat thank you :) ! A bit overwhelmed by it at the mo but great to be here.

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod yes even harder in tweets and very fast moving.... :) All good stuff though :)) #phdchat

@akroundtree - Yes. I meant your project specifically. I'll wait for the pub. Good chatting w/ you! @ianrobsons: SI gets applied all over #phdchat

@SueFolley - @lizith I think it is too late for me :))) #phdchat

@lizith - @SueFolley nah! there's always hope :-) #phdchat

@savasavasava - glad to see you tried it out =) RT @srossmktg: Glad I got into this today. Now that I've *maybe* figured out how #phdchat works... #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - almost time for #apprentice - need something mindless to giggle at and wind down after today's #phdchat

@sarahthesheepu - think i just participated in #phdchat with a very different understanding of theoretical framework than others interesting

@srossmktg - @SueFolley You should try tweetchat.com so you can see just this hash, plus tinker with the tweet refresh speed. #phdchat

@savasavasava - now that I'm done with teaching for the semester, I think I'll have more time and energy for #phdchat. see y'all next week!

@SueFolley - @srossmktg I use tweekdeck and have a column just for #phdchat - I think it was the content which I found hard today :)

@lizith - Right - I'm off to turn on the TV - see you all around the place #phdchat

@amandamichelle - @lizith @SueFolley thanks for the encouragement! i'm definitely excited, but i wanna be on top of my game frm gate, albeit demented #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @srossmktg @SueFolley #phdchat Tweetchat is ok (tried it just now) but I lik to see conversation contexts too like in twitter.

@SueFolley - @srossmktg I haven't use tweetchat before though -so might give it a try next week and see how it compares to tweetdeck #phdchat

@cambgirl - @SueFolley Yes the content was hard today. I just lurked around reading instead of participating this week. Thanks to all! #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - #phdchat wish me luck - PhD supervision meeting tomorrow o-0

@SueFolley - @AmandaMichelle I think going demented is very much part of the PhD process :)) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Eddienosbod I'm not as big a fan of the context in this instance with other things in feed. And TD refreshes too fast. @SueFolley #phdchat

@savasavasava - @Eddienosbod luck! #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod good luck - I am sure you will be great! #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @SueFolley #phdchat unfortunately the work I submitted was too rushed - probably going to be a rough ride... :( #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod don't worry - probably not as bad as you fear... hope it goes well! #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @SueFolley #phdchat Thanks :) Have a good evening x #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Eddienosbod yeah you too! #phdchat

@akroundtree - Vygotsky influence also in med research: Bandura's social cog theory and Glanz on the health belief model. @ianrobsons @Eddienosbod #phdchat

@Eddienosbod - @akroundtree @ianrobsons #phdchat wow thanks for this!

@aephd - @akroundtree @ianrobsons @eddienosbod Bandura's soc cog theory used in Entreprenuership and Mgmt literature.. #phdchat

@sarahthesheepu - Back to the excitement of selecting journals #phdchat

@shaileshak - @NSRiazat thank you for the #phdchat and bringing an empathetic research community together. Well done!