'Data analysis: gathering and dealing with a large data set'

 

#phdchat tweet log - 9th November 2011

 

@NSRiazat - Welcome to #phdchat - topic for tonight is 'Data analysis: gathering and dealing with a large data set' #phdchat

@lizith - @PeterFlomStat I'm here but I know next to nothing about this evening's topic - something about large datasets I think #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - Well, I know a bit about data analysis, since I am a statistician. But seems to be very few people here (small data set!) #Phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat hiya - good to see you #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - One question is what you mean by "large data set". Could be long, or wide, or both. #Phdchat

@NSRiazat - Topic tonight is data analysis. :) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - Also, do you mean thousands of records? Millions? Billions? @NSRiazat #Phdchat

@debbiefuco - I am writing the DA section of Chapter 3 as we speak! RT @NSRiazat: Topic tonight is data analysis. :) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - What sort of DA are you doing? @debbiefuco #Phdchat

@AmandaMichelle - Will chk l8r RT @NSRiazat: Welcome to #phdchat - topic for tonight is 'Data analysis: gathering and dealing with a large data set' #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - Sorry I'm late everyone, completely lost track of time transcribing! #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - lurking tonite #phdchat

@HelenHickson - I'm here. currently doing data analysis, qual research. RT @NSRiazat: Topic tonight is data analysis.#phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - Anyone got questions? Maybe I can answer. I do data analysis for a living #Phdchat

@debbiefuco - @PeterFlomStat I am doing a descriptive study using a mixed-methods instrument. DA w/ include quantitative & qualitative analysis. #phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat can you give us some starter ideas to get the discussion going please #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @PeterFlomStat I'm here! I'm also interested to know what is meant by "large" #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - What good strategies has anyone found helpful for managing large data sets? Just about to embark on mine so any advice welcome! #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @PeterFlomStat qualitative data? #phdchat

@debbiefuco - @PeterFlomStat What exactly does SPSS software do? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @EmmaBurnettx What sort of data are you collecting? What # records? How many variables? #Phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @debbiefuco SPSS does a LOT of statistics. I mostly use SAS and R, though. #Phdchat

@cgenter - #phdchat quali data analysis too! Need to look at statistics for skill development too, any good basic books for this?

@PeterFlomStat - @EmmaBurnettx IME, with qualitative data, most of the problem is with coding. But it's not my expertise. #Phdchat

@debbiefuco - @PeterFlomStat So, that is what I will use to compare groups with demographic data? #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @PeterFlomStat Have 4 data sets, all qualitative (newspaper coverage, 2 focus group data sets & interviews data set) #phdchat

@ai1sa - for some methodologies there is no end to to data (eg actor-network). One just has to cut the threads at some point #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @PeterFlomStat awww bummer! ;) #phdchat

@cgenter - #phdchat anybody know much about #Nvivo?

@OTEllenN - My 'large data set' is 12 CoP groups, 1.5 hours each, with 7 OTs all talking at once! #NVivo9 invaluable for mgt and analysis. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ai1sa Network analysis is its own field. Cool stuff. Sociometric networks especially. #Phdchat

@OTEllenN - @cgenter Love it! #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ai1sa There are some cool network programs in R #Rstats #Phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @cgenter on quite a basic level, but learning all the time. Do you use it? #phdchat

@djsage86 - @cgenter We had a few sessions on it during my MSc year - seemed useful & will probably try to use it when I have my own data #phdchat

@djsage86 - @PeterFlomStat @ai1sa What advantages does R have over Stata? #phdchat

@merry30 - @cgenter NVivo is probably my favourite software at the moment!! #phdchat

@cgenter - @OTEllenN #phdchat really? What's it good for? Got a training next year but heads up would be good

@PeterFlomStat - @djsage86 @ai1sa I don't know Stata at all. One advantage of R is that it's free. Also, LOTS of modules. #Phdchat

@yukrla - hello everybody.Sorry I'm late. have to put baby to bed before joining.he's unsettled so might have to nip to him in a bit...#phdchat

@djsage86 - @PeterFlomStat @ai1sa Interesting - all my quant training was in Stata. Would be up for giving R a go too though #phdchat

@djsage86 - @PeterFlomStat Can you download it for Mac? #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @PeterFlomStat I'm currently trying to get my head around general linear models in SPSS, and the best way to set up my data #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @djsage86 R has a kind of steep learning curve, but does a lot of cool stuff. I've heard good things about Stata too #Phdchat

@cgenter - @EmmaBurnettx #phdchat not yet just keen to know more about it, its for manipulating data not analysis right?

@PeterFlomStat - @djsage86 Yes at http://t.co/3pM744RT #Phdchat

@OTEllenN - @cgenter Coding, storing, managing..the lot. Follow @QSRInt and @QSRInt, hit the website, watch the youtube vids. Really helpful. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ClaretCarly You PROBABLY want your data in a CSV file, with one observation per row and one variable per column #Phdchat

@cgenter - @djsage86 #phdchat thanks I don't know much about it, any info helps

@ai1sa - Im not using any tools beyond my own head in my data discussions. Subjectively saturated :) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - How are people collecting their data? Thoughts on sifting through/storing data? How do people choose which sections to include #phdchat

@JacqInTheBooks - @OTEllenN I've also found youtube very helpful for getting tutorials on NVivo. #phdchat

@OTEllenN - @cgenter That said, I'm off to training #NVivo9 training later this month! I suspect I use about a third of it's capability. #phdchat

@ai1sa - except my head is attached so prolly got lots of emotional bias going on too :) #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @PeterFlomStat Can you explain CSV please? Does that mean I will have to use syntax rather than the usual menu interface? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ai1sa detaching your head is NOT recommended :-) #Phdchat

@yukrla - How would you analyse data for in depth life unstructured interviews for case studies? I have found no such cover in software yet #phdchat

@cgenter - @merry30 really? Its good then? Any info helps yet to use it #phdchat #Nvivo

@lizith - @ai1sa much the same as me - I've got lots of cites justifying bias :) #phdchat

@ai1sa - @NSRiazat there's the rub, whats in AND whats out, I do it in terms of what progresses the thesis q. And social equity. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ClaretCarly CSV = comma separated value. You can enter data in Excel, then store it as .csv. #Phdchat

@ai1sa - @lizith me too #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @cgenter helps you manage your data which is helpful if you have large data sets, but the human still needs to analyse & interpret! #phdchat

@cgenter - @OTEllenN #phdchat thank you that's brilliant! V helpful, may have more q in future.

@srossmktg - Late... #phdchat

@OTEllenN - @NSRiazat For handling qual data, I can HIGHLY recommend Lyn Richards book: http://t.co/dCxVMva4 #sohelpful #phdchat

@yukrla - @NSRiazat @ai1sa Yes, but I find that some 'out' stuff has to come 'in' as the thesis progresses, very confusing..#phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @OTEllenN I went to the NVivo 8 training - was fantastic! #phdchat

@OTEllenN - @cgenter DM me...happy to help! #phdchat

@merry30 - @JacqInTheBooks I've used it for annotating reading notes, but primary use is for coding interviews and other text #phdchat

@ai1sa - @yukrla and then there's the word limit so i just have to put an end to it and save some stuff for the post doc life. #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @OTEllenN agree - its very good and understandable!! #phdchat

@lizith - @yukrla Have you looked at Merrill and West on biographical methods - they suggest various approaches #phdchat

@yukrla - hi :) #phdchat @srossmktg

@PeterFlomStat - Largest data set I ever dealt with was a few million records with a couple dozen variables. That was re mutual funds #Phdchat

@cgenter - @OTEllenN #phdchat I guess as a newbie should just work with #Nvivo9 or are earlier versions just as good?

@yukrla - totally agree...#phdchat @ai1sa

@PeterFlomStat - Qual. data and quant. data are really separate worlds. #Phdchat

@OTEllenN - @cgenter Not sure...only have #NVivo9. Anyone else? #phdchat

@djsage86 - How have mixed methods researchers found switching between qual and quant data? #phdchat

@aeratcliffe - Not just lurking...paying attention to #phdchat. Expect lots of wisdom from @PeterFlomStat and others.

@ClaretCarly - @PeterFlomStat OK, thank you :-) I've looked into R as well but you're right, very steep learning curve! #phdchat

@cgenter - @EmmaBurnettx #phdchat thanks that's as I understood it. I.m using photos interviews and writings so guess #Nvivo will be useful

@lizith - one of important learning points with qual (& I guess same applies with quant) is there is more than one analysis approach #phdchat

@merry30 - @cgenter Very good for coding and managing qual data. Also used for annotating reading notes to help w. lit review & methodology #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @aeratcliffe Thanks! Most here seem to be qualitative researchers. Not my area. #Phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @cgenter Will definitely be useful - its sounds interesting... #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - Definitely true of a lot of quant methods too @lizith #Phdchat

@DeborahALock - lurking tonight - upgrade tomorrow - bound to be queries about DA approach #phdchat

@lizith - I would guess there may be more approaches in qual, but no single correct way to get there and so much determined by how data got #phdchat

@yukrla - and trying not to tangle them up together I guess..#phdchat@lizith

@ai1sa - dictum of Glaser : data is everything. Very similar to ANT. #phdchat

@daciatakesnote - Does anyone out there read read read without much writing, then write a ton, rinse and repeat? Is there a better way? #acbowrimo #phdchat

@JacqInTheBooks - @cgenter I've used NVivo 7 and NVivo 9. I found NVivo 9 more user friendly and has some nice upgrades. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - #phdchat - found I have a large mass of data and am going to have to very selective about what to include to tell 'the story' #phd

@DeborahALock - It's the setting up of Nvivo that puts me off using it - anyone know of a good idiots guide? #phdchat

@ai1sa - How then to combine intvws, fieldnotes, drawings, digital traces, furniture!, hrs of audio, photos, ..one just does., subjectively, #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @lizith which one do you prefer? I'm using Framework analysis & constant comparison, but some unsure they should be used together #phdchat

@lizith - @daciatakesnote that sounds a bit like me - the writing everyday didn't/doesn't work well for me #phdchat

@NSRiazat - #phdchat - how are people turning the raw data into something meaningful for their research?

@HelenHickson - I hadn't thought of that. good idea! RT @JacqInTheBooks: @OTEllenN I've also found youtube helpful for getting tutorials on NVivo. #phdchat

@cgenter - @merry30 #phdchat thank you sounds like I need to get to grips with this quick. Just in 1st year, but ethics in & collecting data in new yr

@EmmaBurnettx - Great question! RT @NSRiazat: #phdchat - how are people turning the raw data into something meaningful for their research? #phdchat

@lizith - @EmmaBurnettx I've used a mixture of framework and biography - I've been desperate not to deconstruct the people behind the data #phdchat

@ai1sa - disney said of music in his films-they have to progress the story, my dictum on in/out . Barf . me citing disney in a serious #phdchat

@yukrla - Happens to me too, maybe you work more 'polishing' your writing? I find I need the concepts in paper first #phdchat @daciatakesnote

@qui_oui - @NSRiazat part of what I have is 100s of news articles. I've built a timeline that tells me a story about my case study institution #phdchat

@merry30 - @cgenter @OTEllenN I know there are some differences between 8 and 9 - my uni only has 8 atm but hoping to get 9 soon #phdchat

@OTEllenN - @daciatakesnote Sounds familiar to me! :) #trusttheprocess #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @HelenHickson @JacqInTheBooks: @OTEllenN yes - Youtube definitely good for NVivo tutorials! #phdchat

@cgenter - @EmmaBurnettx #phdchat thank you, not sure if analyse the photos (of allotments) or just use them as prompts in interview

@aeratcliffe - Any experience with Researchware? Discounts for p/t students as well. NVivo & Atlas.ti require f/t status. #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @lizith ahhhh - do you have large data sets? #phdchat

@merry30 - @djsage86 I'm doing sequential so am doing them separately but will synthesise results at the end #phdchat

@cgenter - @JacqInTheBooks thank you for that #phdchat

@ai1sa - @qui_oui i found a timeline wouldnt work, different participants punctuated time so differently #phdchat

@HelenHickson - yeah i do that! RT @daciatakesnote: Does anyone out there read read read without much writing, then write a ton, rinse and repeat? #phdchat

@qui_oui - @ai1sa I'm using it as a kind of base to which I'm comparing things, including institutional documents--helps with that #PhDchat

@rmitchell - @emmaburnettx Define large? n > 100? 500? 1000? 1m? #phdchat

@lizith - @EmmaBurnettx not particularly - just 26 interviews - but some quite complex and long #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @cgenter @merry30 Plans can always change but having some idea about what to do with data before collecting really helps #phdchat

@qui_oui - @ai1sa Also there are multiple timelines, different narratives, eg the news produced by the institution, the stories in interviews #phdchat

@HelenHickson - I'm using narrative analysis. RT @NSRiazat: #phdchat - how are people turning the raw data into something meaningful for their research?

@DeborahALock - @EmmaBurnettx Thanks for the tip didn't think of YouTube for this #phdchat

@JacqInTheBooks - @rmitchell 1 m?!?! I feel bad for the poor person that has to analyse that qualitative data set!! #phdchat

@OTEllenN - @NSRiazat Hopefully through the process of immersion in the data and re-connection with the literature, context, and purpose! #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @JacqInTheBooks @rmitchell with 1 million, almost surely quant. data #Phdchat

@NSRiazat - @qui_oui - articles and literature as a secondary data are useful to me too. Primary data is from transcripts. #phdchat

@djsage86 - @merry30 Yeah this is a big Q for me - will probably try & do them in separate stints so can focus on each exclusively for few mths #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @JacqInTheBooks Large qual data sets are almost certainly going to be short and wide. #Phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @rmitchell I've qualitative data - newspapers, 16 focus groups, 15 interviews. Lots of data from them! #phdchat

@ai1sa - mmm i am so ANT saturated i had forgotten some people see the world in terms of primary and 2ndry data #phdchat

@qui_oui - @NSRiazat yes, I'm getting interviews and can also compare to the dates on things in articles and documents. #Phdchat

@JacqInTheBooks - @HelenHickson With narrative analysis, I often still wonder how I will make it meaningful & do justice to the participants stories #phdchat

@merry30 - @ClaretCarly @cgenter Absolutely! Consider data analysis before planning data collection #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @lizith I can imagine! #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @DeborahALock usually the first place I go to :) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@PeterFlomStat: Qual. data and quant. data are really separate worlds. - agreed #Phdchat"

@NSRiazat - "@yukrla @ai1sa Yes, but I find that some 'out' stuff has to come 'in' as the thesis progresses, very confusing. #phdchat" (Good point)

@NSRiazat - @yukrla @ai1sa - have chosen but seem to change which data to select for analysis quite a lot - never seem to be finished #phdchat

@qui_oui - @ai1sa exactly! I was different aspects/angles/versions of the same story, so sources are "clustered" around an event in a way. #PhDchat

@ClaretCarly - Need as much data as possible, aiming for 1200 hours of behavioural observations on 35 cheetahs, plus survey info on a further 250+ #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Also find going back into the field and re-collecting data/probing for points of interest from first set of data #phdchat

@ai1sa - data combination problem tends to slip out of this literature (see Elgaard Jensen, via T E Jensen) #phdchat

@lizith - @ClaretCarly wow! that sounds a lot of data! #phdchat

@NSRiazat - ...a real challenge..didn't factor revisiting participants into my time frame for data collection/analysis. Worth thinking about. #phdchat

@yukrla - They say it is not finished until printed so that you cannot change anything...#phdchat @NSRiazat

@ICTwitz - NNNNNOOOOOO, just realised i've missed the main bulk of #phdchat #gutted

@rmitchell - @peterflomstat @jacqlnthebooks Yeah I didn't realize it was qual. :) but with the right software we can take care of it. #phdchat

@JacqInTheBooks - Good point! I will definitely consider. @NSRiazat: ...a real challenge..didn't factor revisiting participants into my time frame. #phdchat

@lizith - I realise that by the choices I am making re data, I am writing one thesis - different choices & I could be writing different one #phdchat

@dbaQ8 - @aeratcliffe Downloaded the demo but wasn't happy with interface. Have u checked #MAXQDA? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - In terms of resources, I found Silvermann a good author for data analysis reference. #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @lizith It's the nature of the field really, unable to draw conclusions about behaviour on just a few days observations #phdchat

@lizith - I can't include everything, but I have material for other outputs on different themes, using diff approaches #phdchat

@aeratcliffe - @dbaQ8 Thx. Will add #MAXQDA to check when getting closer. #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @lizith Plus, so many other variables e.g. temperature, time of year, zoo visitor numbers #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ClaretCarly How does one model cheetah behavior? Markov process? #Phdchat

@rmitchell - @emmaburnettx if it's an option (I know cost can be a problem) then SPSS Text Analytics is great for that. http://t.co/EgCuLCw5 #phdchat

@djsage86 - Do people have a favourite guide to doing qualitative research? #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - Do we always underestimate how much time qualitative analysis takes? #phdchat

@lizith - @ICTwitz the threads will be archived in the wiki at the weekend http://t.co/DUy0WGGl do register #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@ICTwitz: NNNNNOOOOOO, just realised i've missed the main bulk of #phdchat #gutted" (Oh dear. :) still 5 mins to go though)

@debbiefuco - Creswell RT @djsage86: Do people have a favourite guide to doing qualitative research? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @claretcarly or are you looking at other longitudinal data methods? #Phdchat

@ai1sa - @qui_oui i clustered to themes rather than to the event, had difft participants telling of same story differently #phdchat

@VaiBabe - @lizith At the moment, I'd be happy to write any thesis! #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @EmmaBurnettx Warning! Dates in calendar are closer than they appear! #Phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @rmitchell Thank you:) #phdchat

@djsage86 - @debbiefuco Which title? #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @PeterFlomStat The GLM will be for the survey info, keeper ratings of cheetah behaviour on a quantitative scale #phdchat

@DeborahALock - @debbiefuco Agreed Cresswell is really good #phdchat

@ai1sa - @djsage86 4me its linked to the qual methodology utilised #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @yukrla - am changing/selecting data constantly at the moment - it needs a lot of discipline to choose and be confident in choices #phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat Silverman is good but I find him too positivist in his approach - I've found many others more flexible #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @PeterFlomStat Could you give some examples? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ClaretCarly Hmmm. But how do you deal with non-independence of data? #Phdchat

@ai1sa - @NSRiazat and then the organization i was involved in had different needs as the study progressed. Slippage. #phdchat

@lizith - @ClaretCarly it's a massive project you have - bigger than a #phd surely? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @lizith - am saving all the sections included for other papers/articles etc. #phdchat

@ICTwitz - @NSRiazat Thank you, but cannot even work out what the topic is tonight :-s Says more about my mind at the moment than anything! #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @lizith Showing my newbie status - what 'does too positivist' mean? #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ClaretCarly Well, the usual method with lots of variables is some form of multilevel model Y = Xb + Zg + e. #Phdchat

@debbiefuco - @djsage86 Qualitative Inquiry & Research Design #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @djsage86 I'm a fan of Clive Seale & David Silverman #phdchat

@merry30 - @nsriazat Silverman gd but I didn't "click" with him. Sup said "find the book/s that fit you" but I didn't really get it til Silv.! #phdchat

@DeborahALock - @djsage86 Qualitative inquiry & research design : choosing among five approaches 2007 #phdchat

@GradPrograms - More #universities break the taboo and talk to Ph.D.'s about jobs outside academe http://t.co/GtYNcAND #phdchat #highered

@PeterFlomStat - @claretcarly but some form of Markov process might be right, if you are looking at how one behavior leads to another #Phdchat

@cgenter - @merry30 @ClaretCarly thank you sounds like good advice #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@EmmaBurnettx: Do we always underestimate how much time qualitative analysis takes? #phdchat" (I did)

@merry30 - @emmaburnettx Definitely, yes. Qual analysis could go on forever! #phdchat

@merry30 - Ditto. One of my favs. RT @debbiefuco: Creswell RT @djsage86: Do people have a favourite guide to doing qualitative research? #phdchat

@DeborahALock - Fav book today is Saldana's Coding Manual for Qual researhers - provides a good basic overview of codes and coding #phdchat

@ai1sa - Silverman,(2007). A very short, fairly interesting, and reasonably cheap book about qualitative research. Looks cheap in thesis ? #Phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @lizith Sometimes it feels that way! But I will focus on certain behaviours and might need the other info to explain results #phdchat

@debbiefuco - @DeborahALock I'll have to check this one out. Thanks! #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @NSRiazat By much? I think I have underestimated.... #phdchat

@KylieBudge - @qui_oui @djsage86 i like lyn richards' 'handling qualitative data' #phdchat

@ai1sa - Re Silverman, Authors really should have thought about what they called their books if they want to be cited :) #phdchat

@ClaretCarly - @PeterFlomStat Yes, I see what you mean. A good example of different methods for the same data! #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @merry30 Is it difficult to know when to call it a day and say enough is enough?! #phdchat

@qui_oui - MT @ffi_maija: @qui_oui @djsage86 For great overview, I like the Sage handbook for encyclopedic survey. Denzin & Lincoln. #phdchat

@lizith - @LBA_OX12 Thomas, C. (2010). Negotiating the contested terrain of narrative methods Soc of Health & Illness, 32(4), 647-660. #phdchat

@ai1sa - Wonder if he did it deliberately? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Raboosha - agree - data analysis is time and effort intensive. Collecting it was easy - analysis much more intensive. #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @ClaretCarly Depends partly on goal of analysis - looking at a single dependent variable or at how behavior chages #Phdchat

@djsage86 - Thanks for the suggestions all! #phdchat

@daciatakesnote - @helenhickson @OTEllenN @yukrla @lizith Thanks you guys! At least I feel like I'm doing the best I can do. #acbowrimo #phdchat

@ai1sa - @lizith that looks useful thanks for the ref #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @merry30 @NSRiazat and is the analysis the most challenging/difficult part of the process? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @EmmaBurnettx - not left enough time to revisit field and analyse before next report but can do before final draft of thesis. #phdchat

@lizith - @ai1sa I found it useful understanding why I liked some approaches & not others - some of these guys draw blood! #phdchat

@merry30 - @emmaburnettx I think so... but I'm not v experienced (yet). I have to be strict with myself so I don't cross my PhD boundaries #phdchat

@debbiefuco - Any good books for anlaysis of quantitative data? #phdchat

@OTEllenN - @daciatakesnote @helenhickson @yukrla @lizith You can't do anything else! #goodluck #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @merry30 - I liked Cresswell text more than Silvermann. Creswell is succinct, detailed and makes sense in the early stages. #phdchat

@yukrla - thanks for the ref :) I'm not a newbie but always feel like one #phdchat @lizith

@debbiefuco - @djsage86 Great, I'll check it out! Thanks! #phdchat

@OTEllenN - @qui_oui @ffi_maija @djsage86 I'm a Denzin & Lincoln fan too! :) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @debbiefuco What sort of analysis? There are dozens. Regression? Factor analysis? PCA? Multilevle model? #Phdchat

@daciatakesnote - Kid's awake at 830 words. At least I'm 15% done with my goal, though 30% done with November. #foreverbehind #acbowrimo #phdchat #phdparent

@EmmaBurnettx - Not to do with this topic, but before we go, if I have 'unfollowed' anyone last few days, it was twitter not me! Hope sorted now! #phdchat

@yukrla - Thank you very much for a very enriching session :) #phdchat @NSRiazat

@PeterFlomStat - Nice chat #Phdchat

@Batty_Towers - @merry30 thanks! eavesdropping on #phdchat when I am meant to be doing interview coding... may see if Lboro library can supply

@lizith - @daciatakesnote any progress is good :) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Lemness - moderating #phdchat from my Blackberry does not work really well when it refuses to pick up a signal. #phdchat #Blackberry

@OTEllenN - Excellent #phdchat today...thanks all! :)

@debbiefuco - @PeterFlomStat its for a descriptive study. I'll be using ANOVAs and t-tests. Does that help? #phdchat

@lizith - If you haven't found the #phdchat wiki, do check it out http://t.co/DUy0WGGl

@PeterFlomStat - @debbiefuco ANOVAs and t-tests are inferential, not descriptive. #Phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - @debbiefuco One good second book on this stuff is Statistics as Principled Argument by Abelson #Phdchat

@lizith - @Batty_Towers but given it was all about analysis tonight, you can claim enrichment activity :) @merry30 #phdchat

@DeborahALock - thanks - good to chat #phdchat

@NSRiazat - "@EmmaBurnettx: @merry30 @NSRiazat and is the analysis the most challenging/difficult part of the process? #phdchat" (for me it was/is)

@lizith - @NSRiazat thanks for keeping us in order, even with Blackberry not wanting to play #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - Maybe I will do a Squidoo lens on statistics books #Phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - Thank you @NSRiazat and thank you everyone for a great #phdchat! Excellent discussions :) #phdchat

@PeterFlomStat - bye for now #Phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @NSRiazat: @merry30 Thought it might be! #phdchat

@AYakas - #phdchat A month ago I gave up my #phd after a terrible year! It has been the best thing I did and have got my life ...cont'd

@ai1sa - nice start to my day thanks to fellow #phdchat ters

@merry30 - @nsriazat Something about Silverman put my back up. Might have been his assertion that mixed methods leads to "scrappy research". #phdchat

@ai1sa - @merry30 mmmm they do often contradict themselves philosophically when combined. #phdchat

@AYakas - .... Uni where I was registered for #phd has not even bothered to find out why I gave up. No contact from 2 of my 'supervisors'. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Had to adjust my focus questions slightly once I had analysed a small initial batch of data for pilot study. #phdchat

@lizith - @AYakas lack of contact is disgusting! Glad you are happier, but sorry to hear you have 'given up', esp given how much you put in #phdchat

@merry30 - @ai1sa That's why doing mixed methods *right* is more difficult than most people realise. #phdchat

@AYakas - @lizith I can't even begin to describe anger at how I was treated especially since it was supervisor who encouraged me to restart! #phdchat

@MrsRF - Officially now studying for an PhD not an MPhil :-) - just heard my upgrade was a success #phdchat

@Eingang - Sorry I missed #phdChat tonight. I second Saldana's qualitative coding book. I started using it last year. It's been a lifesaver.

@NSRiazat - @merry30 - interested as to Silvermann's arguments for asserting that mixed methods lead to 'scrappy research' #phdchat #mixedmethods

@lizith - @Batty_Towers @merry30 I think at some point you just have to commit - but know there are other options out there for future use #phdchat

@AYakas - Need to find a more positive narrative than 'given up' when telling people abt ending phd. Any suggestions #phdchat?

@merry30 - @NSRiazat said it can be based on under-analysed data and an imprecise or theoretically indigestible research problem. 2000, p99. #phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat @merry30 Silverman & Armstrong into qual approach that emulates objectivity of positivism - don't like anything different #phdchat

@lizith - @AYakas 'moved on'? #phdchat

@ffi_maija - @OTEllenN @qui_oui @djsage86 Not to mention that Denzin&Lincoln works like an old-fashioned phone book to boost kids at table. :) #phdchat

@lizith - @MrsRF congratulations - onward and upward #phdchat

@santinoregilme - #Anarchism and Realism in IR Theory. http://t.co/mjQO7OOe #politics #phdchat #highered

@ClaretCarly - Thanks all for another great #phdchat this evening :-)

@NSRiazat - Many thanks to everyone who contributed to or followed #phdchat tonight. Contributions are very much appreciated. #phdchat #phd

@merry30 - @lizith @NSRiazat Yes - so I imagine mixed methods would wind them up quite a lot! #phdchat

@lizith - @merry30 @NSRiazat quite - you can almost hear them threatening pistols at dawn some of the time #phdchat

@MisaimedBrain - @jennacondie I may get back to you on the thesis offer. Need to see if I can sway supervisors to my way. ;) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @lizith @merry30 - will look out for Silverman/Armstrong's objective stance/positivistic paradigm. #phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat @merry30 take a look at the Thomas ref I posted earlier for starters - I can give you other links if you email #phdchat

@Raboosha - @NSRiazat Even I am tired and could not share good things, but I read all the useful tweets. Thank you all #PhDChat.

@NSRiazat - @lizith @merry30 - will definitely have a closer look at text. Preferred Cresswell and then focused on qual. journals. #phdchat

@merry30 - @lizith @NSRiazat Is that narrative analysis? Am considering thematic analysis, once I get into interview transcription #phdchat

@bevgibbs - @NSRiazat i was lurking/sorting daughter but will definitely mine it later ... great topic, thanks so much for organising #phdchat

@lizith - @merry30 @nsriazat it's narrative meths & most qual he is getting at - Mishler has useful critique too #phdchat

@ai1sa - @lizith that Thomas ref looks to me like an exclnt example for a lit review turned into an academic paper #phdchat

@Janshs - wndering why #phdchat so quite - realised I am over an hour late :(

@TwtrChat411 - #PhDchat starts at 8:30pm BST moderated by @NSRiazat Participate!

@QSRInt - Thx for the shout out! RT @OTEllenN Coding, storing, managing. Follow @QSRInt & @QSRSup, website, youtube vids. Really helpful. #phdchat

@Janshs - love it RT @ ianrobsons breaking out of the 'interview' paradigm http://t.co/mMqOaYK2 #phdchat >> have commented

@AmandaMichelle - Hey #phdchat/others: any advice on how to go abt planning your #phd exper? Wanna balance time to deg w/ ethnog, int'l interests, & M.A. Thx!

@mapetite - Thin I'm in a gaming mood. Been saving paper versions using "mod1", "mod2", etc. ;). #phdchat #wishIwasplayingUncharted2

@EKSwitaj - Women in Academia: Whats Enough? #phdchat

@ewel83 - Looking for graduate students in #Spanish #Linguistics to edit articles for @entrehojas #phdchat

@Notaphdthesis - @EKSwitaj Do u mean what's enough b4 u can stop worrying babout gender bias? #phdchat

@EKSwitaj - @Notaphdthesis Oh oops, the link didn't come through. http://t.co/Yf4kEaRt #phdchat

@EKSwitaj - Corrected tweet with link this time: Women in Academia: Whats Enough? http://t.co/Yf4kEaRt #phdchat

@pinkfairaedust - Join our insiders guide to getting published live chat! #insidersguide http://t.co/lQPRFrlx #phdchat #shutupandwrite

@ewel83 - Looking for graduate students in #Spanish #Linguistics to review articles for @entrehojas Graduate student journal #phdchat #uwo