'Publishing thesis: Turning thesis into a series of papers/publications'

 

#phdchat tweet log - 22nd August 2012

 

@NSRiazat - Welcome to #phdchat - topic for tonight is 'publishing thesis: turning thesis into a series of papers/publications' #phd #highered

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @Posterfolio Perfect topic for me! Was just thinking about it. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Literally got in from Zumba about 10 mins ago - give me a second while I switch from 'Zumba' brain to 'academic' brain :-) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @MichLitch Where do you go? Even fast track at our school takes 4 weeks! #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 for me also, just beginning to think about next step. Have booked myself into a writiing retreat but what to write? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Guess the first major decision is choosing which journals/publications to target for your series of articles/papers from thesis #phdchat

@DrSustainable - The long tail of academic publishing and why that isnt a bad thing http://t.co/34lAH3fv #ecrchat #phdadvice #phdchat #academia #research

@blalockmoore - I'm also curious to know about publishing pieces on the way to submitting the final work. #phdchat

@srossmktg - Turning thesis to series of papers? Easy. Marketing (at least here in US) has moved to multiple-essay format for exactly that. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Q to get chat going - Is choosing journal something we do as we write thesis or something we consider more as a post-doc? #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - hi. has anyone been approached by a publishing company offering to publish their completed PhD? (such as Cambridge publishing) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa Someone said last week divide up the ideas & write them down. I'm at the dividing phase right now I think. #phdchat Seems accessible

@Janshs - @NSRiazat is it Wednesday already?! #phdchat yes agree targetting the *right* journal is vital

@Nicky_Garland - Is it best to turn your entire phd into a text once its complete or publish multiple articles instead? #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @NSRiazat agree, there are so many to choose from in my discipline! #phdchat

@ai1sa - @NSRiazat and thats where hard decisions come in. Local /same country pubs r discouraged by PBRF in NZ yet seems a logical start #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg Can you explain more? do you mean Part 1 and Part 2? #phdchat

@blalockmoore - @Nicky_Garland I am being encouraged to publish multiple pieces but am unsure on copyright impacts #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 thanks for that :) seems straight forward enough though i hadnt thought of it #phdchat

@srossmktg - @NSRiazat I've been of the epistemology that you aim for top journals and then around submission, become realistic. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @Nicky_Garland I'm thinking for my thesis its' easy to come up with topics first, then dive back into lit and research. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @SarahAlden1 @ai1sa @janshs - any tips on how we can choose a journal/journals to target? What factors do people take into account? #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 My diss is 2 papers, covering distinct topics that still cohere (in both an intro and a concl chapter). #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Nicky_Garland ~ not sure who said now but series of papers from diff perspectives to different journals rings a bell. #phdchat

@ai1sa - hav been told academic impact citations to journals have more klout. Dont know if true or why #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat I think it's better to first come up ideas/themes from data AFTER thesis then go find journals then write up articles #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @NSRiazat @ai1sa @janshs as I am quite new to this rely on advice from supervisor or more established peers, #phdchat

@cheeflo - Sooo... SSHRC grant proposals are due on my Convocation day. At least I won't forget either :) #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @NSRiazat @ai1sa @janshs also, the journals where I access the best quality articles via my own literature review #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @SarahAlden1 @ai1sa @janshs Start with looking at the journals that are in your thesis reference list. Most interested #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @blalockmoore @Nicky_Garland ~ think copyright is okay as long as it's not the same article in different journals? #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 e.g. Title of Diss is: "Why Do Consumers Consume Ethically? The Equity Exchange Theory of Marketing" (1/?) #phdchat

@ai1sa - guess its what you want the article to do? Inform practice or gain standing in academia #phdchat

@blalockmoore - @NSRiazat @Nicky_Garland What about copyright when the published article is out before the dissertation is complete? #phdchat

@Gtrombone - @NSRiazat #phdchat No, you become aware of suitable journals as you go along, and argutcan change.

@Janshs - this is key MT @Comprof1 Start with looking at the journals that are in your thesis reference list. Most interested #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 Essay 1 is "Equity Exchange and Consumer Sensitivity to Ethical Choices" (2/?) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Comprof1 ~ good point - have to find a journal which bridges gap between what they want to publish and what you want to say. #phdchat

@Janshs - @blalockmoore @Nicky_Garland seek guidance from the editors #phdchat

@almutei - @blalockmoore Often journals are fine with that. Check the licence. #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - my thesis potentially covers many different topic areas, so hoping to 'section' them and develop each to target particular journals #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 Essay 2 is "The Role of Equity Sensitivity in the Price-Perceived Quality Context". Multiple papers under 1 theme. (3/3) #phdchat

@DrSustainable - @lammoush Oh. Thanks, I'll try again! #ecrchat #phdchat #phdadvice

@blalockmoore - @NSRiazat @Comprof1 And even then, editors and reviewers will likely change some things! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg So publish in Marketing Ethics, JBE, Journal of Consumer Behavior, all same topic but diff take/focus #phdchat

@ai1sa - @SarahAlden1 mine crosses disciplines so am hoping for similar #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @ai1sa I hope to do both as my thesis is based on former career, particuarly aspects of policy that were deemed not to be working #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Always read full instructions for authors carefully, skim last issues for headings/subheadings used/structure/length etc #phdchat

@Janshs - try not to be disheartened by rejection - take the suggestions as they are meant #phdchat

@stefanbjork - A bit off topic, but I'd like to take the opportunity to invite you to the #phdchat IRC channel on http://t.co/RBhIN0vf or any GimpNet srvr.

@lammoush - How long after finishing thesis can you publish? Is there a time limit? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Any thoughts on contacting editors? #phdchat

@DrSustainable - Publishing your Thesis as a Book: a Question of Planning. Part One by Karen McAulay http://t.co/GyJV2hMY #ecrchat #phdchat #phdadvice

@Janshs - I try to practise what I preach LOL #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @blalockmoore @NSRiazat Absolutely. Was told not worry about publish when writing thesis or I'd never finish. 1st please committee.#phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @ai1sa makes it more interesting but challenging too, as each discipline seems to have a unique 'language'! #phdchat

@ai1sa - @lammoush no time limit that i know of, Ive always been encouraged to publish throughout #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat Do you mean before or after completing thesis? #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 Yes and no. They're thematically similar but conceptually different. Trying for 2 JCRs or 1 JM. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 i'd agree my writing for book chapters and conferences slowed me down (but did help clarify my thinking) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @comprof1 Could have done a third essay, but just don't have time right now. I'll work on my stream during TT. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa @lammoush But publish is separate from thesis, right? #phdchat

@blalockmoore - @Comprof1 @NSRiazat Seems to make sense. My advisor is pushing for publications now and thinking towards future ones when complete. #phdchat

@Janshs - ry following up some of the invitations on BELMAS etc too #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - has any1 been approached by a publishing firm offering to publish their thesis once complete? #phdchat

@Janshs - or try even #phdchat

@lammoush - Yes, ppl usually finish thesis first coz of deadline RT @comprof1: @ai1sa @lammoush But publish is separate from thesis, right? #phdchat

@blalockmoore - I've been keeping a list of methods/data/extensions along the way I don't want to write about now but will be future directions. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 for me pubs are seperate, but some people do a phd by pubs (see latest article at thesiswhisperer) I chose not to #phdchat

@lizith - @SarahAlden1 I've had some emails but think they are probably spam or pay to publish outfits - would sooner look for approp pub #phdchat

@Posterfolio - @blalockmoore Great advice. Keeping a side list will be useful for the future. So easy to forget things once thesis is done #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @SarahAlden1 I've been recruited by editors from papers I've presented. Most were accepted, but the top tier pubs were not. #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @lizith a few in my dept have been contacted by 'Cambridge publishers' who offer to do it for free, but still seems a bit 'dubious' #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @SarahAlden1 Just like colleges in US want to be able to keep position as "competitive" by receiving a lot so acceptance rate is < #phdchat

@lizith - @SarahAlden1 I would want to see what kind of stuff they publish before risking - could prevent approach to other better publisher #phdchat

@Janshs - as with anything just keep writing! #phdchat

@ai1sa - Ive seen some exc articles published along the way ( one on debate re major writers in field of narrative research comes to mind) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @blalockmoore I did the same thing. Some I don't want to revisit right now but maybe latter. #phdchat

@blalockmoore - So true! RT @Janshs: as with anything just keep writing! #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @lizith agreed, am only just starting out so hoping by the end I will have choices! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - If you have a paper but don't have time to clean it up or rewrite, keep it ready for when you have more time. #phdchat

@ai1sa - my supervisor suggested putting a box under a pic of where i want to be (travel) where extra ideas go for post doc writing #phdchat

@lizith - @SarahAlden1 I think over time you get sense of which pubs publish what and which most appropriate for your stuff #phdchat

@Comprof1 - Best advice I had from colleague: always resubmit if pub has turned you down. could take a long time but eventually u'll get pub #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @lizith am starting fieldwork so hoping to look at pub soon, hopefully get a better feel once I am 'out there' #phdchat

@Janshs - @Comprof1 and aso true of submissions for research funding (I got a rejection but offer to resub today) gotta keep at it! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - I think revising thesis is like translation Sometimes just have to scrap original & write a whole new article, not modify/translate #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @Comprof1 yes, particularly if they have given constructive feedback, can take advice on board #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @Janshs Thats great. did they give you feedback on your submission? #phdchat

@lizith - @Janshs @comprof1 and remember journals do not count invite to revise & resubmit as rejection #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @SarahAlden1 I had an article where the editor almost sent it to a new reviewer because reviewer had philosopical differences #phdchat

@lindalevitt - @Comprof1 Sometimes need to change your writing style to accommodate book structure and a different audience. #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @Comprof1 I think mine may become several 'mini' articles as a number of overlapping topics #phdchat

@Comprof1 - any suggestions on how to get started after completed thesis? What should be first step? I'm sort of stuck. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - Just for context, my dissertation was 250 pages long. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 Ive booked myself a writing retreat with women academics who do this twice a year. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa What a great opportunity. Wish I had that opportunity! #phdchat

@blalockmoore - @ai1sa @Comprof1 That's awesome. I find working with a writing group so important to my development. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 might be worth asking around or asking on #acwri or #ecr ? This one is in NZ specifically peer support of women #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa I'm thinking of maybe asking our school to arrange a similar retreat, maybe once a year. It'd be nice to have the feedback #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @blalockmoore @ai1sa @Comprof1 in my dept we are looking arranging weekends away to read and share ideas, important to get feedback #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Finding quality time to write after the thesis has been handed in is a challenge - has to be done though. #phdchat

@lizith - @Comprof1 There may be somewhere or something around already - I've got a few days at a residential library booked next month #phdchat

@blalockmoore - @SarahAlden1 @ai1sa @Comprof1 Our school orgs writing retreats, but I really enjoy the time for interaction and feedback too. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @lizith Ive never heard of a residential library, what a greta idea :) #phdchat

@lizith - @ai1sa http://t.co/lwOJ5dFO it's an amazing place #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa @lizith I just don't think US universities have those support services esp for parttime or non-tenure track prof #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @lizith will check this out #phdchat

@lizith - @SarahAlden1 note there are reduced prices for students :) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - We do have pro-seminars for phd students where faculty & students share experience including publishing #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @lizith good to hear! often find things that seem great, but are outside of my budget #phdchat

@MtnrSmith - @Janshs @Comprof1 Very good idea. Sounds simple and obvious, but still we get deer-in-headlights "where to start?!" fear. Thanks #phdchat

@martin_eve - @Comprof1 I've been writing journal articles while waiting for viva. Also started to think of bigger projects. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat I'm not sure what you meant by this. A good way to start process is meet editor at conference. #phdchat

@SarahAlden1 - @Comprof1 that sounds good, we lack this kind of collaboration in my faculty #phdchat

@lizith - @SarahAlden1 I checked out the cost of a number of retreat houses and reckon this is much less - 33 dbb :) & library #phdchat

@Janshs - @Comprof1 yes I'll try again :)) #PhDChat

@SarahAlden1 - @lizith thats really reasonable, now that I can afford :) #phdchat

@Janshs - @MtnrSmith @comprof1 where to start - just try a journal you like I'd say #PhDChat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat Has anyone spoken with editors on their campus? do they discourage articles from home campus? #phdchat

@ai1sa - @lizith thats neat! I know of others who book themselves into religous spaces to do writing retreats #phdchat

@blalockmoore - @Comprof1 @NSRiazat U.S. discourages support letters all from your own institution so I might be cautious of this too #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa Back to your ? local vs. intern'l in US, univ prefer US, then European, then others. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - I've been considering finding other researchers who might have same topic as mine to coauthor. Any suggestions/comments? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Comprof1 ~ co-authoring is a great way of pooling together skills and resources - have to have a similar style though? #phdchat

@blalockmoore - @Comprof1 I <3 this for extensions on your research/if it was collaborative work. I think uni is starting to see benefits. #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 copublish with supervisor? Or with other students of same supervisor if sharing interest areas? #phdchat

@lindalevitt - @NSRiazat @Comprof1 Unless your institution has a large prominent press (like Duke or Texas), it's kind of like a vanity press. #phdchat

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@SarahAlden1 - @ai1sa @Comprof1 if supervisor well known this is a great way in, though colleagues have complained about doing most of the prep #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa Well, no b/c thesis was only piece of their expertise. My research was solo/unique interdisciplinary. Thinking of colleagues #phdchat

@ai1sa - if impact factor important...wouldn't any online publication freely accessible get cited more- am i just very naive? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - 8.30pm brings us to the end of #phdchat for this week - another useful session. Thanks all for valued contributions. :-)

@Comprof1 - @ai1sa Depends on field of study. Business journals online not considered as strenuous. Elearning/Communication online j have rep #phdchat

@lizith - time to wander off into another room - been good talking - thanks @NSRiazat for organising us #phdchat

@Janshs - @lizith: time to wander off into another room - been good talking - thanks @NSRiazat for organising us #phdchat me too

@SarahAlden1 - @NSRiazat thanks, has given me much food for thought #phdchat

@blalockmoore - Thanks everyone! It is always great to hear your suggestions and knowledge. Thanks for sharing! #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 what would you like to write about? #phdchat

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@ai1sa - @nawalfarhat my recalcitrant guests are much more octopus like. They would clash too much to risk knives and same room :) #phdchat

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@strictlykaren - Oh I forgot about #phdchat tonight, lost track of days with having mon and tues off this week #duncecorner #phdchat

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@strictlykaren - @NSRiazat how to create a journal article frm a thesis http://t.co/XQvDqYtv article in nurse researcher, may need login #phdchat

@annaramona - @qui_oui @KateSelene I use it, although am still trying to figure if this is the ideal place to keep papers or LinkedIn or both? #phdchat

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@ai1sa - @qui_oui i do :) and have had direct contact made with me because of it. #phdchat

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@JeffreyKeefer - Tonight I have some juicy analysis planned #phdchat

@drwcarter - Today is another opportunity to make some forward progress on your dissertation. Is it done yet? #phdchat

@galpod - I have just about had it with trying to convince people my research is valuable. Would I spend all this time on it if it wasn't? #phdchat

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@rjhogue - How different is this than when professors have their PhD students do all the work and they take credit ... http://t.co/wsmbOzgT #phdchat