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Collecting and gathering good data 12th December 2012 (redirected from Collecting and Gathering Good Data)

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'All aspects of collecting and gathering 'good' data for analysis'

 

#phdchat tweet log - 12th December 2012 

 

@NSRiazat - Welcome to #phdchat - topic for tonight (7.30-8.30pm GMT) is 'all aspects of collecting and gathering 'good' data for analysis'. #phd

@LBA_OX12 - Moving from lit review 2 fieldwork feels like a big change - moving from reading others'research 2 doing ur own #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Apologies - can't join you for #phdchat tonight but hope its a good discussion. Will catch up later on. :) #phd

@rglweiner - Imagine--we share BEFORE we publish? Unheard of! MT @TheEAIE: The flipped academic http://t.co/noGlgdXl via @GdnHigherEd #highered #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat Even before collecting good data is finding sites/first hand data. Took me two yrs and 2 false starts #phdchat

@XarahC - @NSRiazat Catch you soon Nasima :) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @lizith @XarahC @EmmaBurnettx @londonaesthetik Sarah, good suggestion. Updates to others always helped me. #phdchat

@XarahC - @LBA_OX12 def better when iterative: I started LR, went to field, formalised LR in writing Now would like chance to redo fieldwork! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @LBA_OX12 Do you have your own space to work from? That helps. #phdchat

@lizith - @Comprof1 @xarahc @emmaburnettx @londonaesthetik what's helping me is tweets most days from folk I hardly know saying I can do it #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 @lizith @EmmaBurnettx @londonaesthetik even tho I've been quiet, Liz's comments have made me consider what to do each day #phdchat

@rmit_csit - 15 Lesson Plans For Making Students Better #Online #Researchers http://t.co/uAdbT00g #HigherEd #teaching #learning #ictev #research #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @XarahC Yes. I will need 2 review/extend lit review in light of fieldwork findings #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @Comprof1 Yes, definitely #phdchat

@lizith - @XarahC @Comprof1 @EmmaBurnettx @londonaesthetik glad my tweets are helping :) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @LBA_OX12 I know from experience in Mkt research you work with what you have. Next phase after phd can redo. #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - Need to allow time for logistics of finding/recruiting interviewees has taken long than expected #phdchat

@XarahC - @LBA_OX12 I don't think I searched enough about process before I started data collection - just wanted to get on with it #phdchat

@lizith - @XarahC @comprof1 @emmaburnettx @londonaesthetik think there's something about mutual accountability - each responsible for self bt #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @LBA_OX12 so that's limitations in your phd. Can you go back and do more? I couldn't. #phdchat

@XarahC - @LBA_OX12 I certainly didn't allow enough time + was let down by uni for funding fieldwork - that took 6m extra to source #phdchat

@srossmktg - Hey all, revising draft. What's the topic? #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @lizith @XarahC @EmmaBurnettx @londonaesthetik Also good to know others that can understand stress/challenges #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith @Comprof1 @EmmaBurnettx @londonaesthetik it seems to work, some or most days depending on stage. Need to do more! #phdchat

@anasabutaha - I feel like thanking the reviewer for his/her 'silly' comments on my paper, I was forced to learn something new to respond!! #PhDchat #KAUST

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg Collecting good data. #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 @LBA_OX12 no, can't return to fieldwork now. I learnt from my mistakes and can reflect that in thesis, so not bad overall #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @Comprof1 Not limitations - just the sheer slog of organising & administering - keeping track #phdchat

@KtlnG - Setting up for data collect up will take much longer than expected. Def feeling that now but hoping prep work pays off in the end #phdchat

@muzrobertson - Anyone doing a part-time PhD want to talk about the experience? Is it even feasible? #phdchat

@muzrobertson - A part-time PhD might be the only way I can afford to do one (here in UK at least). But aware that some depts look down on them. #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @muzrobertson Me. It's gruelling. You end up taking your vacation time to write. #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 Don't you kind of get the data you get? Like, it is what it is? Then you have to tinker with design and redo? #phdchat

@XarahC - @muzrobertson yup, and yes it is feasible. Do you work FT? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @XarahC - definitely will email tomorrow Sarah - busy week so far. :) #phdchat

@XarahC - @KtlnG I'm sure all prep work will pay off :) #phdchat

@XarahC - @anasabutaha hi! This week we're talking about collecting good data! Glad your paper comments had good use though #phdchat

@lizith - @muzrobertson lot of f-t PGRs are not really f-t when you factor in teaching, running confs, etc, etc #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @muzrobertson I completed it pt. Need a good program that caters to pt. I did it w/ family & work. #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @muzrobertson Feasible but very demanding. My uni dept is very supportive of p/t students #phdchat

@lindathestar - Greetings phders! Data collection is an interesting topic. I loved my data collection. Qual research, interviews. #phdchat

@XarahC - @LBA_OX12 @muzrobertson Q: How many here are PT? #phdchat

@AMLTaylor66 - @jlwestwood @londonaesthetik sound advice. Take time away also and come back once you have revisited why you started this journey #phdchat

@muzrobertson - @vanillacaramel Involves a great deal of self-discipline, I'd imagine. #phdchat

@lindathestar - I used in-depth interviews without a question schedule. Learnt in my Masters research to say as little as possible. #phdchat

@XarahC - @lindathestar me too Linda! Though I think now I didn't ask all the right questions - bringing in your point @srossmktg about data #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @LBA_OX12 @muzrobertson I was. #phdchat

@XarahC - @AMLTaylor66 @jlwestwood @londonaesthetik YES! time away (depending how much left ofcourse) is always valuable #phdchat

@lindathestar - I had some topic areas I wanted to cover but started by saying 'Tell me about your ...' Let participants decide what mattered. #phdchat

@muzrobertson - What timescale are we looking at for part-time PhD's? 5-7 years? #phdchat

@XarahC - @muzrobertson doing a #phd involves a great deal of self-discipline full stop ;-) @vanillacaramel #phdchat

@lizith - @lindathestar did you have any prompts? Sup trying to make me claim 5 words on a scrap of paper was interview schedule - hmmm #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @muzrobertson UK or US? US can be up to 10 years. #phdchat

@XarahC - @muzrobertson I've been going 5.5 years so far, currently submitting early 2013, but after today's shocker at uni might be later #phdchat

@muzrobertson - @lizith An interesting point, though I'm it's cost, not time, that's pushing me towards p-t. #phdchat

@lizith - @muzrobertson at Sussex it's max 6, but extension may be negotiated #phdchat

@lindathestar - Finding participants was not hard, despite outr topic. One tweet led to radio int, the rest word-of-mouth #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 how long did you take Virginia and what was your concurrent work schedule? @muzrobertson #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @lizith @lindathestar I had to have questions to get past Institutional Review Board. I could edit but not add w/out permission. #phdchat

@srossmktg - @xarahc @lindathestar Think it depends on the method. Qual data collection/analysis differs from quant. #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith @muzrobertson at Leeds Met is max 7, I believe #phdchat

@lindathestar - @lizith I did have a list of prompts to cover, but after the first few didn't need it: remembered key things #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @muzrobertson What happened? #phdchat

@muzrobertson - <3 #phdchat. Such a useful hashtag.

@lindathestar - @Comprof1 @lizith I needed a list for ethics too #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @XarahC @lizith @muzrobertson 7 yrs @ Soton #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 just going to kiss son goodnight...will return in a bit to answer this! #phdchat

@lindathestar - @srossmktg @xarahc Qual VERYdifferent from quant #phdchat

@KtlnG - @XarahC Trying to remember that it needs to be sound collections first & foremost. If something new comes up, more to discuss :). #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @lindathestar @srossmktg @XarahC Qualitative data collection can be easier to a certain extent but harder to analyze. #phdchat

@lizith - @lindathestar @comprof1 interesting - didn't have to give any more than a very vague outline of Qs to ethics - lots of other stuff #phdchat

@muzrobertson - While I'm here, might as well ask: which UK politics/philosophy depts would folks recommend for continental pol theory? #phdchat

@lindathestar - I've been P/T mostly also, worked part time & had carer responsibilities. Once had interviews in can could think about them #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @KtlnG @XarahC I had participants offer info that I wasn't allowed access to. had to turn it down because of ethics. #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - Strict ethics governance at Soton - have 2 get approval 4 paperwork ur going 2 use - #phdchat

@lizith - looking forward to joining in - lurking in #phdchat too #eswphd

@lindathestar - @lizith @comprof1 Mine was a list of aspects to cover, not set questions #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @KtlnG @XarahC Important to realize that no data is perfect & may need to have "limitations" you'd rather not have. #phdchat

@lizith - @LBA_OX12 yes I had to do that, but not interview schedule #phdchat

@muzrobertson - @cathyby Not only might it be the only route I can take, I'm currently working with @philosophyfound, and it seems a good fit. #phdchat

@lindathestar - @Comprof1 @srossmktg @XarahC Qual/quant different analysis- harder or not depends on yr interests & how yr brain works. Qual fun! #phdchat

@srossmktg - @comprof1 @lindathestar @XarahC True, which means that data obtained is different. Rapid feedback enables rapid design modifiers. #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @lizith Had to submit interview questions & risk assessment as well #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @planetchampion At Soton, can't start fieldwork until U get formal OK #phdchat

@lizith - @DeniseT01 discussion tonight mainly about data collection - it will go on the wiki http://t.co/DUxWp6xb in next few days #phdchat #eswphd

@lindathestar - @KtlnG @Comprof1 @srossmktg @XarahC There is a skill in conducting an interview well, being open to & following up leads #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lindathestar @Comprof1 @XarahC I think they're equally challenging. But use depends mostly on RQ, then epistemology/ontology. #phdchat

@planetchampion - .@LBA_OX12 So if supervisors and business partners agree and ethics considered that would be OK? #phdchat

@lizith - @LBA_OX12 prob very similar - just no schedule - in the end thesis is only a tiny bit of what I did #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lindathestar @KtlnG @Comprof1 @XarahC Location definitely impacts qual/quant. Larger ratio of quant to qual researchers in US. #phdchat

@lindathestar - I've just applied to extend ethics approval time; have completed interviews but want option to do more, or speak to part's again #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg @lindathestar @KtlnG @XarahC What are the response rates that are appropriate for quant? #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @planetchampion Have online system that U have 2 submit ethics applcn thru - FEC has 2 give OK #phdchat

@lindathestar - @srossmktg @KtlnG @Comprof1 @XarahC More quant researchers in most places, I think #phdchat

@KtlnG - @Comprof1 Agreed. Want to make sure any limits I include I had no control over, not things that I could have dealt with early on #phdchat

@srossmktg - @comprof1 Response rates? Depends on medium. For instance, mTurk moots a response rate. @lindathestar @KtlnG @XarahC #phdchat

@planetchampion - @LBA_OX12 That seems sensible -unless it stops some research approaches But it would seem that you cd make a case for no schedule #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lindathestar Depends on field. But on #phdchat, I find lots more UK/AUS/NZ quals, esp in social sciences. @KtlnG @Comprof1 @XarahC

@Comprof1 - @LBA_OX12 @planetchampion In US up to university. Ours is more strict than College of Pharmacy down the road! #phdchat

@XarahC - @lindathestar @KtlnG @Comprof1 @srossmktg when you have to transcribe all these deviations though can regret your interest later #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg @lindathestar @KtlnG @XarahC When I worked in Costa Rica, any research w/ less than 80% considered unrepresentitive. #phdchat

@merry30 - @planetchampion @LBA_OX12 I didn't have to include schedule because the Qs all came out of questionnaire responses (mixed methods) #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC @muzrobertson It is not just about discipline. When you are writing up, you need time when you ae not doing anything else #phdchat

@planetchampion - @Comprof1 @LBA_OX12 It's a fine line Uni has to protect its reputation Researchers have to have some freedom.Some process necessary #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @planetchampion I didn't have 2 submit a detailed timeline of what I was doing when #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @merry30 Also using mixed methods - interview, then survey #phdchat

@XarahC - @srossmktg @lindathestar @KtlnG I suspect true in UK too, or probs will be by time govt stops funding all non-science research;) #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC @muzrobertson It's a complex project with lot of detail, structuring etc so your brain needs to expand to take it all in #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @LBA_OX12 @planetchampion I did but I never followed it!:) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @LBA_OX12 @merry30 Interesting. Most I know do survey THEN interview. Will survey be based on data from interviews? #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC @muzrobertson Me too - 5, 5 years, but with some sabbatical time to do nothing but write #phdchat

@XarahC - @srossmktg @lindathestar @KtlnG @Comprof1 have been wondering if that's due to who is attracted to #phdchat -science phds work in large labs

@MsFloraPoste - Still thinking of my favourite 12 living sociologists for the @BSAPGForum blog....too many to choose from. #phdchat #phdadvice

@XarahC - @vanillacaramel @muzrobertson yes, time that sadly I am not afforded just now with 2 children with flu :/ #phdchat

@srossmktg - @comprof1 Depends. I was once told a 75% heuristic. But also, how does one get nonresponse on web? See Kanuk and Berenson 1975 JMR. #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - @Comprof1 Yes - survey will be based on interview findings #phdchat

@XarahC - @MsFloraPoste @BSAPGForum Zygmunt Bauman - saw him in a lecture just this afternoon. Very inspirational man #phdchat

@lindathestar - @XarahC @srossmktg @KtlnG @Comprof1 Agree. Social networking goes with quant personality, perhaps? #phdchat

@srossmktg - @xarahc Good point. Always feels skewed when I'm in here. @lindathestar @KtlnG @Comprof1 #phdchat

@XarahC - @vanillacaramel how close to finishing are you Lesley? #phdchat

@AmandaMichelle - Global Social Change Institute Call for Applications #phdchat #hiphoped #blackedu #latism - The Research... http://t.co/hGPxbYnf

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @srossmktg @lindathestar @KtlnG They have support thru thesis process Those in humanities/social sciences more on their own #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - Who's using what software for analysing data? I've opted for dedoose - can use it 4 mixed methods #phdchat

@literarychica - Tweeps, do you have suggestions of where I can find examples of postdoctoral fellowship applications? #acwri #ECRchat #PhDChat Thanks!

@lizith - @DeniseT01 I got into Twitter though #phdchat - that's why I know so many people around the globe #eswphd

@lindathestar - @Comprof1 @XarahC @srossmktg @KtlnG I'm quite isolated, even in lab, few others, so #phdchat has been very important in many ways. Love it

@XarahC - @muzrobertson @vanillacaramel My husband @DocDamo works very FT, and did his PhD PT over 4 years (with year break when son born) #phdchat

@XarahC - @LBA_OX12 I'm analysing data by hand. It's quite cathartic actually! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg How do you control for internet bias? (i.e. self selected, those off the internet) #phdchat

@HelenCoverdale - have spent 3 hrs cleaning bibliographic database. Got as far as 'I' :( #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @LBA_OX12 that's what I did. I agree, but also time consuming. I definitely knew my data for defense! #phdchat

@srossmktg - @comprof1 Not sure that research demonstrates you can. It would sound like the limitation must be accepted ipso facto as any other. #phdchat

@XarahC - @lindathestar are u quant then Linda? I don't have either lab or peers to discuss with hence twitter <3 @Comprof1 @srossmktg @KtlnG #phdchat

@XarahC - @lindathestar @Comprof1 @srossmktg @KtlnG should say 'peers left'!! PTers get left behind eventually! #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 @LBA_OX12 one consolation for the extra time-input to look forward to then :) #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC Not as close as I thought went I sent my full-length draft to supes in October! Taking Xmas vac to try finish #phdchat

@XarahC - @MsFloraPoste @BSAPGForum look forward to seeing your list when it's done :) #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC @muzrobertson @DocDamo I think if you have an academic or research job it is easier #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC @muzrobertson @DocDamo You can do work on your PhD then as part of your daily work #phdchat

@lindathestar - @XarahC @Comprof1 @srossmktg @KtlnG My uni/school has postgrad computer lab where a community could be, if enough enrolled. #phdchat

@lindathestar - @XarahC @Comprof1 @srossmktg @KtlnG I'm definitely quant! Not a numbers person, tho love philosophy of maths #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC That's what makes it so stressful. The finish line always appears to move away as you approach it! #phdchat

@lindathestar - Must say bye & have breakfast, before fasting for cataract surgery this avo. Good to talk! Hot day today too #phdchat

@lizith - @lindathestar hope op goes ok - take care #phdchat

@XarahC - @vanillacaramel that's very exciting Lesley, hope you get there as soon and as pain free as possible :) #phdchat

@XarahC - @lindathestar all the best with surgery! Enjoy breakfast, and the sun!! Take care #phdchat

@XarahC - @vanillacaramel know that feeling!! #phdchat

@XarahC - @MsFloraPoste @BSAPGForum have you seen this? http://t.co/EyOtkwRK #Bauman #phdchat

@srossmktg - Just found out I pulled a dissertation research grant from the school. That'll cover the dissertation. #phdchat

@lizith - @DeniseT01 tweet @thesiswhisperer about storify and @gawbul who does the #phdchat archive - both good folk! #eswphd

@XarahC - @srossmktg Nice work :) #phdchat

@debbiefuco - @srossmktg Good for you! #phdchat

@debbiefuco - @ranilillanjum Yep. Mine took 6 years part-time. #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @srossmktg Good news! #phdchat

@XarahC - @londonaesthetik @lizith @EmmaBurnettx I'd like that reminder too please ;-) #nobeer #phdchat

@lizith - @XarahC @londonaesthetik @EmmaBurnettx No beer unless written xxx words :) #phdchat

@debbiefuco - @boodleoops @muzrobertson I have some input into a discussion on part-time PhD if interested. #phdchat

@debbiefuco - @srossmktg No kidding! That's HUGE! #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith that's rubbish. A lot of it around these days. And you don't need such distractions :( @londonaesthetik @EmmaBurnettx #phdchat

@lizith - @XarahC @londonaesthetik @EmmaBurnettx did feel bit like straw breaking camel's back this pm, but his friends are helping him :) #phdchat

@XarahC - @londonaesthetik @XarahC @EmmaBurnettx @lizith see you in the morning then :) #phdmorning #phdchat

@vanillacaramel - @XarahC @lizith @londonaesthetik @EmmaBurnettx @DocDamo Bye.Off to bed. Didn't get much done today, so I'll start again tomorrow #phdchat

@lizith - Time to move away from computer for some proper downtime - talk again soon #phdchat #eswphd

@vanillacaramel - @lizith @XarahC @londonaesthetik @EmmaBurnettx I had a break in at my house in the final stages of my write up. Really threw me. #phdchat

@lizith - @vanillacaramel @xarahc @londonaesthetik @emmaburnettx guess it's a time when vulnerable anyway & doesn't take much to be too much #phdchat

@PJ_Weatherill - Always worth a revision ... RT @lifehacker: What's your grammatical pet peeve? http://t.co/xvyzHGAb #phdchat

@PostFilm - Telling your Research Story: 18 Advantages of visual auto-ethnography. http://t.co/95ezSrmj @postfilm #phdchat #edchat #edtech

@ajwooff - @Em_Webber just sent me this link to the 'research in progress' tumblr http://t.co/EU2eh9ii . Well worth a read for PhD laughs #phdchat

@Rabourn - YES, this: 'research in progress' tumblr http://t.co/IrKY4oWC via #phdchat

@ajwooff - just been sent this link by @Em_Webber to the 'research in progress' tumblr http://t.co/EU2eh9ii . Well worth a read for PhD laughs #phdchat

@TheAssPsy - I am RUBBISH at reading journals. That must be a bad thing. Argh. #psychology #research #phdchat

@mustbuyukcelebi - Turn your notes into writing using the Cornell method http://t.co/kHPAVkob #phdchat via @thesiswhisperer

@Hredric - Today in lab (1st time) I've taken 5kW from A, rectified it AC/DC, sent it to point B, inverted it DC/AC and inject it back in B! #phdchat

@lindathestar - @DipoLadI I used Audio Memo app on phone to record, & free Express Scribe program to listen while transcribing& outsourced some! #phdchat

@MinxMarple - advice to jobseekers: don't go for an interview 2 days before your viva #phdchat

@lindathestar - @DipoLadI Professional transcribers can be used with permission from ethics & confidentiality agreement w transcriber #phdchat

@JeffreyKeefer - @Comprof1 What made yours non-typical? #phdchat

@JeffreyKeefer - @lindathestar You need to extend IRB / ethics? #phdchat

@thesiswhisperer - Turn your notes into writing with the Cornell method from @acadskillsmelb http://t.co/vF5iSjbM #phdchat

@StephMulrine - Interesting! I'll try it.. "@thesiswhisperer Turn your notes into writing with Cornell method @acadskillsmelb http://t.co/b5aNhnII #phdchat"

@lindathestar - @JeffreyKeefer Ethics approval ends 31/12/12, have applied to extend for another year.Grey area re reconnecting w part's w/out it #phdchat

@JeffreyKeefer - @lindathestar Ahh, got it. Do you need to renew it each year? #phdchat

 

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