'Feedback - picking yourself up and moving on constructively'

 

#phdchat tweet log - 5th December 2012

 

@NSRiazat - Welcome to #phdchat - the topic for tonight (7.30pm-8.30pm GMT) is 'feedback - picking yourself up and moving on constructively' #PhD

@EmmaBurnettx - @lizith absolutely! :)) #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith @EmmaBurnettx @NSRiazat @0lhos @SueFolley @BrandPhD my dinner will be ready in oh about 5 mins...might be a bit late on the #phdchat

@lizith - I'm around and ready to get involved in #phdchat

@XarahC - @NSRiazat ...and funnily enough I have a lot to say on this subject this week! #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @XarahC @lizith @nsriazat @0lhos @suefolley @brandphd thanks for the reminder - I completely forgot it was Wednesday! #phdchat

@NSRiazat - #phdchat - 'all feedback = good feedback#...thoughts to get us started? #phdchat

@srossmktg - +1. First in weeks. RT @lizith: I'm around and ready to get involved in #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @SueFolley I was thinking feet up for the rest of the evening! Lol #phdchat

@XarahC - @EmmaBurnettx how timely :) @lizith @NSRiazat @0lhos @SueFolley @BrandPhD #phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat I'm not sure - I think different types of feedback good at different times - & some may be good but inappropriately timed #phdchat

@XarahC - @NSRiazat well, the harshest feedback can reveal serious issues for consideration, however cutting it might be #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Tonight's session is about feedback for thesis/chapters/book reviews/journal articles and conferences....#phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat Not always. Especially if you aren't ready to hear it yet. #phdchat

@SueFolley - @EmmaBurnettx oh totally! #phdchat

@SueFolley - @XarahC @lizith @EmmaBurnettx @NSRiazat @0lhos @BrandPhD enjoy your dinner :) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Each piece of feedback is getting me closer to getting thesis finished - a quality thesis not a rushed one. #phdchat

@markjbradford - @NSRiazat good feedback# is about 'balance'... #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @NSRiazat i had supervision today, really encouraging feedback on findings chapter, very motivating #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @NSRiazat I think some people are better at giving feedback than others. #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @lizith @NSRiazat hardest thing for me it's not to take feedback personally - I still struggle with that & suspect I always will #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Comprof1 @NSRiazat agreed - harsh feedback can really knock your confidence! #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 this is a really good point. But perhaps students don't put themselves up for potential criticism until they feel ready #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @strictlykaren@NSRiazat great news Karen! :)) #phdchat

@SueFolley - @strictlykaren that is great! :) #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @SueFolley @Comprof1 @NSRiazat agreed - harsh feedback can really knock your confidence! < for sure!!! #phdchat

@XarahC - @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat might be a female thing...will look for a blog post i recently read on that after #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @NSRiazat I had one person who gave written feedback that was terrible. It would send me in a dozen places. #phdchat Her f2f wasgood

@srossmktg - When do you guys actually get feedback? I feel like maybe it's different with qual research since data is analyzed differently? #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @nsriazat me too, bad feedback very personal, goof feedback sounds like its for someone else #impostorsyndrom #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @XarahC @lizith @nsriazat will look forward to that - thanks! #phdchat

@markjbradford - @NSRiazat your supervisor "is not your therapist, BFF, career counselor, or colleague." (@drwcarter) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @markjbradford ~ can you expand on 'balance' #phdchat

@srossmktg - ...Not that quant work doesn't get feedback. Often times that feedback is positioning related or method tweaks. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat I learned when it was really bad, put aside then read another day when ready.#phdchat

@lizith - @XarahC @emmaburnettx @nsriazat that wasn't by any chance mine on derailment? http://t.co/XWglU2wQ #phdchat

@XarahC - @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat sorry have to go (sprout risotto!) who has experienced horrible feedback? #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat I also think its important to realize all feedback is not "correct". Learn how to ignore some. #phdchat

@NeilStats - #phdchat Taking advantage of having two sups who provide different styles of feedback has been very helpful for me...

@NSRiazat - Any thoughts on conflicting advice for the same piece from different reviewers? #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Comprof1 @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat good point - it is hard to ignore feedback when you feel like the novice :) #phdchat

@lizith - @0lhos @XarahC @NSRiazat hi Andy - I'm planning on eavesdropping on #eswphd this evening :) #phdchat

@markjbradford - @NSRiazat sure. i use 'balance' in relation to balancing intrinsic & extrinsic motivation. #phdchat

@srossmktg - Be pragmatic, but forward-moving. RT @NSRiazat: Any thoughts on conflicting advice for the same piece from different reviewers? #phdchat

@SueFolley - @NSRiazat I would take that as an example of subjectivity and go with the one you agree with most :)) #phdchat

@DrJeremySegrott - @NSRiazat had this experience recently. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg Mine was qual but coworker was quant. Same experience with same committee member. #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @NSRiazat often journal reviewrs can give conflicting feedback, but you consider and provide rationale to editor and make a choice #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @Comprof1 @lizith @nsriazat agree - or right for your study. Also, some feedback I had was because I wasn't explaining myself well #phdchat

@markjbradford - @Comprof1 great idea. #SleepOnIt is an excellent strategy. just did this earlier this week! @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat #phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat my sup'r told me she reads article feedback with co-writer, so they can decide tog what to do with conflicts & bad stuff #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @DrJeremySegrott ~ thoughts? Was it helpful or ever more confusing? :-) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg @NSRiazat THAT WAS THE WORST. Go with the member w/ the greatest power :) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Nicky_Garland ~ good point about it being your thesis - feel like thesis is in charge of me at the moment. :-) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 Interesting. So maybe feedback is idiosyncratic to members? My process is diss-by-advisor instead of diss-by-cmte. #phdchat

@DrJeremySegrott - @NSRiazat Think covering letter with revision stressing you've sought to address both sets of comments (and how) is important. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg @NSRiazat At one point I went to chair & let him work it out with the committee members. They then had united front #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 @NSRiazat Thinking about reviews in general (ie, journals also). Can't please everyone. Ultimately have to charge ahead. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @EmmaBurnettx ~ my feedback is mainly reworking repetitive paragraphs and remembering to always back up claims with research #phdchat

@markjbradford - @NeilStats good point. my feeling, after mostly critical #PhD feedback this wk, was that i need to lead the dialogue. @NSRiazat #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Comprof1 - but are they always right? :-) #phdchat

@strictlykaren - my main feedback today was that at times i am overanalysing and maybe reading too much into data #phdchat

@DrJeremySegrott - @NSRiazat Wasn't as hard as I thought. Made me think about what we (authors) wanted to say and which points we agreed with. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat Sometimes just a basic difference in fundamental beliefs. #phdchat

@NeilStats - For me, three way meetings help! "@NSRiazat: Any thoughts on conflicting advice for the same piece from different reviewers? #phdchat"

@srossmktg - Right now, heavyhanded editing of disstn corpus, then to advisor by 12/20, few rounds of advisor feedback, then to cmte by 1/18? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Is all feedback always written anf formal? What about feedback from conferences/feelow PhD researchers? Does this help us develop? #phdchat

@drwcarter - B4 my student would walk into my office for help on her #dissertation she would say "Dr. Carter, I am checking my ego at the door" #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @markjbradford @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat Then I would read it like I do one of my students papers or journ art. I'm reviewing #phdchat

@Keely_Jo - @NSRiazat I find that +ve feedback boosts confidence and -ve critique (yet constructive) motivates me to improve my work. #PhDchat

@lizith - I think there is a difference between feedback on thesis & other written stuff in terms of investment and vulnerability #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg But won't you have to defend to a committee? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @strictlykaren ~ would love to be guilty of overanalysing in my thesis. :-) #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @srossmktg thats an exciting deadline, i have to submit by May 2013 for viva june/july #phdchat

@markjbradford - @NeilStats @NSRiazat "leading" = i should actively seek positive feedback THEN constructively critical feedforward. #aikido #phdchat

@srossmktg - @NSRiazat Chatting with other PHDs in my program tends to help. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @strictlykaren ~ damned ('scuse my French!!) analysis chapter and subsequent discussion is turning into quite a chore. :-) #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @NSRiazat: @strictlykaren ~ was thinking the exact same thing! :)) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat I presented prelim findings to 2 diff research groups on campus. Really helped me to explain myself #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 I will. But advisor wont let corpus go to cmte until he believes it's defensible. That's typically when date is also set. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @NeilStats ~ what's a three way meeting? #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @NSRiazat yes it does, we have a monthly writing group, and give each other feedback on draft articles etc, useful peer review #phdchat

@srossmktg - @strictlykaren I have to be done by end of year, but no sense prolonging. Want to do a "St. Valentine's Day Dissertation Massacre". #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @drwcarter But advisors also need to be able to question w/out crushing student. #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith no, but I thought the same thing after reading your blog post! @EmmaBurnettx @NSRiazat #phdchat

@bekkigriffiths - @NSRiazat I respond better to informal feedback from colleagues rather than formal written feedback easier to act on immediatly! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg That's what happened to me. Thought all was set. Then he and another cmte member disagreed. Nightmare! #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @srossmktg lol, sounds good, will you take chics and flowers? #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @markjbradford ~ feedforward is fantastic. Can you elaborate on that? :-) #phdchat

@srossmktg - I think feedback also depends on rapport with reviewers. Helps to be pragmatic, post-feedback. #phdchat

@markjbradford - @Comprof1 interesting reflection + reminded me that i often say similar things to MY students:) @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Comprof1 # agree - would prefer to have comments/feedback now in developmental stage than at viva #phdchat

@NeilStats - #phdchat gtg for tonight, in a talk!

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 I guess I just have a sympatico committee (and an advisor who basically rams through, like a politician). #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @srossmktg ~ hoping to catch up with some on my programme in February residential. #phdchat

@srossmktg - @strictlykaren Lol, either that or a screaming baby. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @bekkigriffiths @NSRiazat and clarify. Sometimes change written and not what they intended Then have to change again Talking better #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @0lhos ~ think all advice is intended professionally - best to take it on the chin and move on rather than dwell on it personally. #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 @srossmktg @NSRiazat but what if it's blind peer-review and you don't (or aren't supposed to) know who gave the feedback #phdchat

@markjbradford - @NSRiazat it's all about intentionality ... actively "moving" the conversation forward (rather than backwards). i only feedforward #phdchat

@Lemness - @NSRiazat so far - it's all just hoops to jump thru. It's about learning about the process. #ifitwaseasyeveryonewoulddoit #phdchat

@bekkigriffiths - @NSRiazat I struggle most with conflicting feedback on the same work how do you know what to ignore? #phdchat

@lindathestar - Hi everyone, joining a bit late but I'm here for a change #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @0lhos ~ so much constant and reflective feedback virtually throughout PhD so would be quite tough if all was taken personally. :-) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @XarahC @Comprof1 @NSRiazat For your dissertation? Or for journals? #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @markjbradford @EmmaBurnettx @lizith @NSRiazat I think diss process makes you a better teacher b/c more receptive to students #phdchat

@markjbradford - @0lhos take 'time' to absorb & respond to the situation, rather than react... @NSRiazat #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Comprof1 @Drwcarter ~ I have a wonderful working relationship with my supervisor @janshs but onus is on me to deliver thesis. #phdchat

@srossmktg - @bekkigriffiths @NSRiazat I think ultimately you have to "be the expert" and understand what feedback is valuable or not. #phdchat

@LynneStobbart - @strictlykaren Ooh, 'going beyond the data' where've I heard that before? Oh yeah, guilty as charged. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @bekkigriffiths @NSRiazat Honestly, I'd ignore some of the comments and resubmit to see if they caught them. #phdchat

@lindathestar - I like direct feedback that shows the person has engaged thoroughly with the work. Not offended, but I'm keen to get it right #phdchat

@srossmktg - .@bekkigriffiths @NSRiazat Then you have to just be able to defend why you are/n't using the feedback. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Lemness ~ more engaged haha - I must try harder when multi-tasking. :-) #phdchat

@lindathestar - It's when feedback shows they haven't read carefully that is annoying and possibly offensive. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @bekkigriffiths @NSRiazat It also helps if u write summary of changes you made in thesis for rereview Learned this as jrl reviewer #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @LynneStobbart a difficult balance at times when doing interpretative analysis, you can'tmerely describe, but sups were right :) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @XarahC - good point about blind peer reviews. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @markjbradford ~ came across 'feed-forward' as a term last week and thought it was brilliant compared to 'feed-back' #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @bekkigriffiths ~ yes same - best to go with the one that you resonate with the most - it is your thesis at the end of the day. #phdchat

@lizith - @strictlykaren @lynnestobbart but some description necessary to contextualise - tricky balance! #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @NSRiazat @markjbradford agree, feedforward is a more developmental way of viewing it #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @lindathestar Also, some people feel they have to find something "wrong" or didn't show they read it. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @Comprof1 ~ I teach in a high school and agree - studying does make you more receptive to students. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Any thoughts on feedback in viva exam? #phdchat

@lindathestar - Colleague had article rejected w 'bitchy' feedback fm editor that showed it had only been skimmed, she was very unhappy. #phdchat

@nonisa - Does anyone use Papers2 for refs? Is it as good on PC as Mac? #phdchat #PhD #phdlife

@bekkigriffiths - @Comprof1 @srossmktg I think its the choosing and defending part that's the hardest particularly with feedback on methods #phdchat

@NSRiazat - More on feedforward - http://t.co/VNhVd2wg #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat If possible, you should have a colleague at exam who can write down comments. In US diss is usually public. #phdchat

@lindathestar - More experienced colleagues picked the editors style, said send elsewhere, but supported value of article #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @NSRiazat Any thoughts on feedback in viva exam? < I'll be pleased to hear "congrats you've passed, nothing more to do!" Lol! ;) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat I had a friend do this for me because someone she knew did it for her. Very useful even tho I had feedback from cmte #phdchat

@srossmktg - Big R (versus little r) reviewers: The anonymous coauthor (Taylor 2003). Perhaps a good read for many. http://t.co/FrEyhVDl #phdchat

@lindathestar - @Comprof1 You can show you've read it by engaging with the ideas, not by finding fault #phdchat

@markjbradford - @Comprof1 @NSRiazat also 'Say It (Feed)Forward' http://t.co/x3IAaphe #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @EmmaBurnettx @NSRiazat or hello Dr Strickland please take a seat, would make my day #phdchat

@srossmktg - @bekkigriffiths Nah, they're giving you a PhD to assume you can do such a thing. Not for the weak of heart. @Comprof1 #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @strictlykaren: @EmmaBurnettx @NSRiazat or hello Dr Strickland please take a seat, would make my day < brilliant! :) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg Actually, I have been thanked in articles for my comments. I always try to get into the head/intention of the writer. #phdchat

@SueFolley - @NSRiazat feedback on viva exam can be hard to take, especially as it as one-off and very down to individual examiners :) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @lindathestar I know that, but some people don't. I've learned to recognize them and ignore their comments! #phdchat

@lindathestar - I like the approach of finding positives to comment on as well as criticism. Do this when marking student work, prob not enough #phdchat

@HannahSouthwell - @nonisa Oooh i'm intrigued. Haven't heard of it before, thanks for bringing it to my attention! #phdchat

@LynneStobbart - @strictlykaren Yeah, a fine line - but the broader thinking doesn't go to waste #phdchat

@strictlykaren - @SueFolley makes choosing examiners really important #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @SueFolley @NSRiazat My poor son was tramatized by the defense! :) I was prepared though! #phdchat

@srossmktg - @comprof1 I'm just a big believer in pragmatism in all aspects of life. Reviewing is no exception. #phdchat

@drwcarter - Your advisor won't set a defense date unless s/he thinks you're going to pass. & the document looks like the final product. #phdchat

@lindathestar - @Comprof1 Ignoring the bad stuff takes internal fortitude, well done! I must get better at that #phdchat

@bekkigriffiths - @srossmktg I agree, I quite like negative feedback as much as positive its just the figuring out what to do with it after! #phdchat

@srossmktg - @drwcarter Agreed. Unless you have an inexperienced advisor. But you're right. 90-95% of the dissertation will look like the end. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @strictlykaren @SueFolley Best advice, if you can, ask supr who they would like to work with. At least min conflict. #phdchat

@SueFolley - @strictlykaren yes agreed :) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @bekkigriffiths @srossmktg Actually, neg feedback is not the problem, the way it is delivered Contradictory feedback kills my soul. #phdchat

@SueFolley - @Comprof1 @strictlykaren good advice :) #phdchat

@XarahC - @SueFolley @NSRiazat just a reminder that we often only see the worst in feedback, but there is usually something well framed & +ve #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @bekkigriffiths @srossmktg Also difficult when you know its a fundamental belief that differs (ie approach, value, belief) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 Contradictory feedback ultimately requires you to make a choice. Use your expertise to defend. @bekkigriffiths #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Martala M & Parry J (2008) 'Lecturers' Written Feedback & Students' Use of Feedback - A Match Made in Heaven?' Uni of Hertforshire. #phdchat

@SueFolley - @XarahC @NSRiazat yes very easy to focus on negative and almost not see the positive :)) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 If you've put in the work, you should be able to defend yourself, even to other approaches. @bekkigriffiths #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @XarahC ~ usually justified and makes you reflect on how to move forward and progress #phdchat

@markjbradford - @XarahC = critical reflexivity #phdchat @SueFolley @NSRiazat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @NSRiazat Good point. 95% of comments might be "well done", but we focus on 5%. Rmber thinkg "minor" changes were major. #phdchat

@J_J_Dempsey - Any suggestions or experiences for extraction methods to obtain phenolic content? ...fresh/dry/frozen tissue..ethenol/methanol etc #phdchat

@srossmktg - @comprof1 @XarahC @NSRiazat I'd be hard-pressed to think there's a revisionless dissertation. #phdchat

@XarahC - @srossmktg [finally, it's letting me reply] I was thinking of conference proceedings I guess same as @Comprof1 @NSRiazat #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @XarahC Also sometimes need to step back from work & allow others to help form. Later can have your own work. #phdchat

@drwcarter - Don't expect your advisor to "imagine" what the dissertation will look like.Seeing is believing. Ain't nothing like the real thing. #phdchat

@XarahC - @srossmktg @Comprof1 @NSRiazat - that should have said 'same as journals' #phdchat

@strictlykaren - got to go just now but thanks for good chat #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @XarahC Rembr supvr telling me that many advisors/cmte members look at student dissertation as reflection on them #phdchat

@markjbradford - #PhD students should take more time to "design" their supervision meetings i.e. formalise positives as part of process #phdchat

@srossmktg - @XarahC Even for conf proceedings... I just my best inference to determine what feedback I accept or reject @Comprof1 @NSRiazat #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @XarahC Put role of advisor & cmte members into perspective esp if they think "bad" thesis will affect them #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @srossmktg ~ my thesis is comparable to 'nightmare on Elm Street' at moment - can't wait for xmas break so I can sort it out!! :-) #phdchat

@XarahC - @ruthmassierose @Comprof1 @NSRiazat quite possibly, certainly the most impacting lessons.... #phdchat

@srossmktg - @NSRiazat Lol, everything's compiled for mine, but at least 50% of it I wouldn't show my advisor at this point. :P #phdchat

@XarahC - @srossmktg you see, I wish I had such innate confidence to frame it that way @Comprof1 @NSRiazat #phdchat

@srossmktg - Diaper change! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @ruthmassierose @Comprof1 @XarahC @NSRiazat Sometimes 5% can also be a part of your identity. To give it up means U give up urself. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg Boy or girl? #phdchat

@XarahC - @NSRiazat hope you're not taking it into your dreams :/ @srossmktg Also need xmas to let go...even if just 3 or so days! #phdchat

@lizith - @Comprof1 @ruthmassierose @xarahc @nsriazat or it can feel like denying self - even if not really #phdchat

@lizith - @XarahC @nsriazat @srossmktg I dream about mine - & no xmas for me this year - submit early Jan - eek! #phdchat

@srossmktg - @Comprof1 Girl (though I've been peed on 3 times). #phdchat

@Mairenibheith - @nsriazat at times I've been specific re: asking 4 feedback, eg scientific content & not sentence structure #phdchat

@gawbul - @XarahC Mine is consuming every waking and sleeping moment of my life at mo :-S Role on next September :-P @nsriazat @srossmktg #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith @Comprof1 @ruthmassierose @NSRiazat imposter syndrome rearing its ugly head, again! Feel can't leave any stone unturned #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @srossmktg Put it aside for a few days. Then read through entire thing as you have it. Work macro, then read again. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @XarahC ~ oh no - I always switch off from thesis once I close the study door otherwise it would always be there. #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lizith @XarahC @NSRiazat My advisor is out of country from 12/21-1/4. So he needs draft for plane ride. So Im free while hes gone. #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith not even one day? But early Jan isn't so far to keep going for :) @NSRiazat @srossmktg #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @gawbul ~ feeling that mine will take over pretty much after xmas. #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @NSRiazat have to sign off now folks. Thanks for a great discussion :)) #phdchat

@srossmktg - @xarahc @Comprof1 @NSRiazat Just have to start building confidence. That's why you're doing this. :P #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @srossmktg I ended up restarting findings chapter. Pulled ideas from previous chapter, but starting over was easier. #phdchat

@ruthmassierose - @ruthmassierose: @Comprof1 @xarahc @nsriazat very true but a phd is a reshaping journey! #phdchat

@XarahC - @gawbul you submit next Sept and you're like this already??? Please take lots of time over xmas with your wife & cute baby :)t #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat @srossmktg Actually rewrites took less time when I started over from beginning Had ideas but didn't get lost in prev work #phdchat

@gawbul - @NSRiazat It'll be over soon and will wonder what all the fuss was about, lol #phdchat

@XarahC - @NSRiazat @gawbul I've got 2.5 horrible weeks now, then full on til end Feb #phdchat

@lizith - @Comprof1 @nsriazat @srossmktg I'm doing quite a lot of re-writing at moment - and shifting chaps around - chaos reigns! #phdchat

@gawbul - @XarahC I think I've been like it since about this time last year :-S Lol! Will try :-) #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @lizith @Comprof1 @srossmktg ~ same - reshaping - rewriting and editing for me too #phdchat

@XarahC - @EmmaBurnettx bye, lovely to 'see' you again :) @NSRiazat #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @NSRiazat @gawbul Esp tough when you have a family. #phdchat

@NSRiazat - 8.30pm GMT brings us to the end of #phdchat for tonight - thank you all for contributions tonight - see you next time. :-) #phdchat

@lizith - @NSRiazat @comprof1 @srossmktg but you've got time on your side :) sometimes wonder if I'll have a thesis to submit :) :( #phdchat

@EmmaBurnettx - @XarahC you too Sarah :)) #phdchat

@ruthmassierose - @NSRiazat thank you very much! #phdchat

@XarahC - @Comprof1 Interesting :> I ended up restarting findings chapter. Pulled ideas from previous chapter, but starting over was easier. #phdchat

@srossmktg - @nsriazat @lizith @Comprof1 That's where I'm at now. It's all there, but its a diamond in the rough still. And 2 weeks to do it. #phdchat

@lizith - good to see you guys - better get back on my write-edit-write cycle :) #phdchat

@markjbradford - thanks everyone. interesting #phdchat session @NSRiazat #PhD

@Comprof1 - @NSRiazat Great discussion. Just glad I'm over phd now. 1st Christmas in 10 yrs w/out thinking about phd. #phdchat

@gawbul - @Comprof1 They're the ones that keep me strong through it all! I'm a particularly sensitive person, so tough... @xarahc @nsriazat #phdchat

@gawbul - @Comprof1 ... feedback can knock me back for a few days! @xarahc @nsriazat #phdchat

@XarahC - @srossmktg lots of positive energy to polish it up then :) All the best! @NSRiazat @lizith @Comprof1 #phdchat

@lizith - Just in case anybody has been lurking around #phdchat or wonders what it is, there is a wiki with chat archive http://t.co/DUxWp6xb #eswphd

@Comprof1 - @XarahC Allowed me to break out of the confines I built around the thesis and move in new direction (which I needed). #phdchat

@0lhos - #PhDchat my thanks too! :) am now off to share with folks in #eswphd

@lindathestar - @NSRiazat Thank you, Nasima, and everyone. Good to be awake in time for #phdchat

@XarahC - @lizith good luck, and take a small break :) #phdchat see you in the #phdmorning

@XarahC - @Comprof1 @NSRiazat can't WAIT for that feeling... first birthday, first Easter too...#phdchat

@lizith - @XarahC will try - took most of yesterday off and it helped :) #phdchat

@gawbul - @lizith That reminds me! Don't think I've added last weeks yet :-S #phdchat

@srossmktg - @lizith @NSRiazat @Comprof1 Lol, maybe but I've got only 4 years of funding. And any TT job in Fall '13 needs me to be done before. #phdchat

@XarahC - @gawbul me too Steve. Even though kids (& @DocDamo) are a distraction, theyre undoubtedly sense of strength too @Comprof1 @NSRiazat #phdchat

@srossmktg - @xarahc Thanks! #phdchat

@XarahC - @gawbul speaking of which,it's all kicking off upstairs. All these winter bugs going round make for grouchy bedtimes, thx @NSRiazat #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @bekkigriffiths Yes, at which point, I made sure my assumptions were clear in intro. they may not agree, but u defined starting pt. #phdchat

@lizith - @gawbul no prob :) #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @srossmktg @XarahC @NSRiazat Wonder if part of this is cultural. I've been to conferences in Europe & they are brutal. #phdchat

@ruthmassierose - @lizith: @DeniseT01: 'imposter syndrome' ...I think perhaps we all suffer from that a bit?>>> definitely! <<< all the time! #phdchat

@0lhos - @juliawarrener my feeling is that you are very welcome here #eswphd, I found #phdchat to be very welcoming too, happy to share it on

@rglweiner - @XarahC Agreed! I need to use Storify to see how you can get those notes together in one place. #phdchat

@HistoryGirrl - Inter-war home seminar @ihr_history : Deborah Sugg-Ryan's findings RE kitchen closely match my own. Very encouraging! #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @XarahC @gawbul @DocDamo @NSRiazat One night when ready to give up Phd, my kids told me they'd be disappointed if I quit. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @Comprof1 @XarahC @gawbul @DocDamo @NSRiazat That's why I'm a bit disappointed my son can't be at my commencement. Finals at Uni. #phdchat

@Janshs - #phdchat sorry @NSRiazat the phone kept going and I was almost in on time this eve! viva feedback is vital not only if you have any . 1 of 2

@Janshs - #phdchat sorry @NSRiazat 2 of 2 .. revisions but also in case you are going to publish part of thesis later on

@gawbul - @XarahC Have a nice night :-) @nsriazat #phdchat

@_beck_ - @NSRiazat panel members are critical, so too is understanding their background/methods so you can evaluate feedback appropriatly #phdchat

@NSRiazat - @_beck_ ~ sounds like a brilliant opportunity to be able to get feedback #phdchat

@lizith - @DeniseT01 I'm usually in #phdchat, so will pop next door as it were & join you next week #eswphd

@_beck_ - @lindathestar Great. But some panel members are also poor teachers - and thus ill equipped at handling & delivering their feedback #phdchat

@Comprof1 - Just was accepted to receive "flipped classroom" training. Can't wait to blog/tweet about it. #phdchat #edtech #highered #ecrchat

@Lafrenchfille - New post ! Book review 3: Sydney Brenner - A Biography http://t.co/X92O7LPT #Science #Bookreview #PhD #PhDchat

@_beck_ - @lindathestar I think this is a great approach, one I am sure is welcomed by students + reflective of your teaching philosophy. #phdchat

@Janshs - @justdahneetsa can be difficult but often the unexpected yields so much! keep going #phdchat

@_beck_ - @NSRiazat indeed, but it can be challenging dealing with the egos of more academics! Particularly in design research (small field) #phdchat

@ai1sa - bother missed #phdchat, bought internet time just for this & forgot. Oh well. will catch up on it at my leisure while on my writing retreat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 @srossmktg @XarahC @NSRiazat not all brutal, the networked learning conference was great, hugely supportive #phdchat

@lizith - #phdchat calling it a day as far as tech goes - be back early tomorrow accompanied by thesis drafts :)

@_beck_ - @markjbradford yes, but u may also miss opportunities for surprise & uncertainty. Critical ingredients for creativity~connections #phdchat

@Janshs - @lizith it sounds like it's all coming together #phdchat

@ai1sa - @Comprof1 :) a christmas without phd, mine is in so will join you in trying not to think about it #phdchat

@_beck_ - @markjbradford I do think this is a great idea, but it needs not be every meeting. The process needs room adapt/change accordingly #phdchat

@blogtillyoudrop - @NSRiazat Gutted I missed tonight's #phdchat - when is the next one? I am starting to think about my proposal for next year... :)

@_beck_ - @NSRiazat thanks! Sorry for joining late - I need to set my alarm earlier here in Australia :) #phdchat

@ai1sa - @lizith re:sometimes wonder if I'll have a thesis to submit :) :( <- i hav every confidence in u, your perseverence will c u thru #phdchat

@rmit_csit - 15 Lesson Plans For Making Students Better #Online #Researchers http://t.co/BmAPuvXM #HigherEd #teaching #learning #ictev #research #phdchat

@Mozziebites - Some good advice here #phdchat MT @conservbytes Advice for getting your dream job in conservation science http://t.co/HnnW6XiH

@Janshs - @mnjorgensen @tln in the UK, use for resources, PD ideas, #phdchat #mathchat #sltchat and more!

@NSRiazat - @blogtillyoudrop - every Wed from 7.30pm-8.30pm GMT. #phdchat

@blogtillyoudrop - @NSRiazat ha brilliant! I am also UK based. I'll be there next week. Just linking back to the wiki in a blog post at the mo #phdchat

@rglweiner - When I get writer's block, I work on my #dissertation acknowledgements. #cartbeforehorse #phdchat

@markjbradford - @_beck_ agree, although i don't believe by "designing" the opportunity you risk loosing creative connections #phdchat

@markjbradford - @_beck_ sure "designing" the opportunity is about building in an openness to adapt/change. this practice needs design leadership #phdchat

@Moll_Hackabout - Supervisor references 'The Princess Bride' in chapter edit comments. Ergo greatest supervisor ever. #PhDchat

@TheAssPsy - Right, I better stop thanking all you lovely people for following me and start tweeting something worth reading! #APchat #phdchat

@thesiswhisperer - PhD Examiners don't mind typos do much, says Allison Holbrook, they are looking for communicative coherence #aareapera2012 #phdchat

@jswann - MT @thesiswhisperer PhD Examiners don't mind typos do much, says Allison Holbrook #aareapera2012 #phdchat <would that were true

@lindathestar - @_beck_ Thanks. I try, but still probably make some first years gnash their teeth #phdchat

@lindathestar - @ai1sa Noticed you were not there! Hope writing retreat is going well. #phdchat

@Comprof1 - @TamaraJPowell You can find my reading list here on google docs CMC Reading list.docx - https://t.co/iYFlaHPM #cmcua #phdchat

@peoplegogy - just submitted chapters 1-4 for another review. taking a break tomorrow. starting chapter 5 on friday. #phdchat

@peoplegogy - my dissertation is at 117 pages now. lit review is 39 pages. not approved yet, but feeling like i have accomplished something #phdchat

@NikkiIsChillin - @peoplegogy Wow. I hope to be at that point next year. #nervous #excited #phdchat

@UMelbArchives - If you missed our seminar "Mining companies, communities & their histories" you can hear the audio http://t.co/SQrSByYQ #phdchat #archives

@NikkiIsChillin - @peoplegogy Awwh, thanks! I'll be sure to listen in. This journey is certainly not easy or for the faint of heart. #phdchat

@followstefanie - Bit late for #phdchat My thought is that you need to remember you're advocating an idea, not defending it. Feedback is then easier to take

@peoplegogy - @NikkiIsChillin you need a flack jacket to write a dissertation. never know when you are going to get hit #phdchat

@JeffreyKeefer - The CFP for the AoIR #IR14 conference in 2013 is now online http://t.co/NCY4UZm4 @ir14 #phdchat

@yusunbin - Have you used Qiqqa for reference management and annotation? How is it? http://t.co/DgwXV0k7 #phdchat #ECRchat

@JoeyElle - How can 15 pages of proposal = 7 pages of references . . . #phdchat

@snowandscience - I could really get used to this "working" thing where you don't stress about your work when "off the clock". #phdchat

@alyssa_lai - "What if we reconceived the guiding assumption that Ph.D.'s are supposed to become professors?" http://t.co/tcPPFgFW How? #HigherEd #phdchat

@kathy_godwin - Just doing that grad student thing... #phdchat #sadoc #sagrad (@ University of Arizona Main Library) http://t.co/j8fguNUt

@PhDConfessional - Finished my CITI training! Woohoo! Fully qualified to research human subjects #phdchat

@ai1sa - @lindathestar great gp of women, beautiful outlook 4 staring in2 space, rain keeps me @ my desk, a good writing retreat #phdchat

@lindathestar - @ai1sa Sounds lovely. Enjoy, be productive, or not, as required. #phdchat

@rglweiner - Just looked at Pinterest for the first time in months. This is going to end badly. #procrastinating #phdchat

@ai1sa - just won a last sentence competition at my writing retreat based on phd *blushing with fake humility today* #phdchat

@MarcusKC - My full-dissertation has been mentor approved! Praise God!!! #phdchat

@justinohearn - Just came from a fruitful discussion with supervisor. I will scale #livecomps mountain soon enough. #gradlife #phdchat

@AmandaMichelle - w00t! RT @MarcusKC: My full-dissertation has been mentor approved! Praise God!!! #phdchat

@AmandaMichelle - can i just say? i'm LOVING that i'm seeing more blackfolk use the #phdchat tag. invite your friends!

@CarolynR - i've made a decision: i'm going to redefine my expectations and practice a little self-compassion. me > exams (hopefully) #phdchat

@ScientistMags - Australian Physics Decadal Plan released today: http://t.co/Vxc4vtXZ #ozscied #phdchat #scicomm

@ECE4ALL - Today was a "what the hell am I doing in a PhD program" kind of day! humbling and humiliating! #phdchat #higherEd

@RMITsgr - MT Gr8 advice 'What I Tweet - multiple identities on Twitter' http://t.co/wnpeIAaY via @researchwhisper #ecrchat #phdchat #digitalfootprint

@mgto_org - Dailypic: Thesis advisers... http://t.co/OmYIZsZP #phdchat #academia

@JeffreyKeefer - I just wrote and submitted the notes of Monday's supervisory meeting. Was that already 3 days ago? #phdchat

@Viil - 5 Tips to Becoming a Killer Scientist Who Changes the World #phdchat http://t.co/5WUU0OhP

@rmit_csit - 10 #Google #Search Tips All #Students Can Use http://t.co/jiP0Df83 #phdchat #teaching #HigherEd

@MurdochUni - A seven step method to find focus for writing. Some good ideas! http://t.co/gvUptpIl #productivity #phdchat

@snarkyphd - #csaa2012 panel talking about technology transforming academic practice. Hey there #ecrchat #phdchat and so on...

@MurdochUni - If I waited for perfection, I would never write a word. - Margaret Atwood #quote #productivity #acwrimo #phdchat

@lizith - It's cold and dark outside, but I'm at my desk ready to do battle with these thesis drafts :) #phdmorning #phdchat

@NSRiazat - Martala M & Parry J (2008) 'Lecturers' Written Feedback & Students' Use of Feedback - A Match Made in Heaven?' Uni of Hertforshire. #phdchat

@juliawarrener - @lizith Go, go, go... Hope you write well today #phdchat

@SueFolley - @ai1sa yay! Well done you :)) #phdchat

@LBA_OX12 - Code data as U finish transcribing an interview or when all interviews r transcribed? #phdchat

@ThomsonPat - Time for social media, work or leisure? http://t.co/9zwwaEJm #acwri #lovehe #ecrchat #phdchat #gradchat

@lizith - @librarygirlknit yep - time is getting short & need to get thesis neat and tidy to submit early Jan! #phdchat

@erin_turbitt - Summer holidays are great (aside from the fact that I don't get one), the uni gym's so quiet with no undergrads woo! #phdchat #silverlining

@wcyeong - ideas appeared! now need to watch out for the grammar only. huhuhu! #phdchat

@PhDelirium - PhD CARTOON/ Un peu de compassion que diable !!!!! http://t.co/XhrUqkio #phdchat #doctorat

@katieguacamole - Having a go at using #Goodreader on iPad to highlight and make notes on PDF journal articles. Anyone else find this useful? #PhDchat

@evalantsoght - Great book to get started on the PhD http://t.co/hYzWt3Qg #phdchat #phd #phdadvice

@NatureInd - Look out for the #phdchat hashtag for our 'Away from home' series featuring Indian postdocs in foreign labs!

@FerreiraCEM - I'm in a workshop on Responsible Innovation and Responsible Governance at the Manchester Business School. #ResponsibleGovernance #phdchat

@short_devil - #phdchat After the PhD, the journey continues :S Im packing up my office & it is rather sad sayin goodbye to the dept. (1/2)

@JoTayl0r0 - Off to @britishlibrary to read Christabel Coleridge's thoughts on renegade late C19th women. #literature #phdchat

@dimi_kaneva - New #phd blog post: Recap on To Do lists and setting SMART goals http://t.co/PoiZEF4l #phdchat

@short_devil - I will be leaving my home country to start my career which almost feels like the great unknown - but very exciting. #phdchat